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To: Teleios Research

Therefore, by faith alone in Christ’s sacrifice ...

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I know I’m posting to a bot and bots do not reply. But as I’ve posted before - you are posting FALSE DOCTRINE.


2 posted on 07/24/2020 8:23:39 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Catholic Church teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. (CCC 846)

He who believes and is baptized will be saved. (Mk 16:16)

Unless you repent you will all likewise perish. (Lk 13:3)

He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. (Jn 6:54)

Since Jesus established the Catholic Church as necessary for salvation, those who knowingly and willingly reject him or his Church cannot be saved. We see this in Jesus’ teaching: “He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters” (Mt 12:30). Also: “[I]f he [a sinning brother] refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector” (Mt 18:17). Paul warned similarly: “As for a man who is factious, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is perverted and sinful; he is self-condemned” (Ti 3:10-11).

The Church recognizes that God does not condemn those who are innocently ignorant of the truth about his offer of salvation. Regarding the doctrine in question, the Catechism of the Catholic Church (quoting Vatican II document Lumen Gentium, 16) states:

This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience—those too may achieve eternal salvation. (CCC 847)

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/what-no-salvation-outside-the-church-means

As we have seen, God introduced salvation to the world through his chosen people, the Jews. God’s revelation to the Jews found its fulfillment in Christ, the Messiah, who established the Catholic Church. The grace necessary for salvation continues to come from Christ, through his Church. Those who innocently do not know and embrace this might still attain salvation but those who knowingly and willingly choose to reject it, reject salvation on God’s terms.


3 posted on 07/24/2020 8:40:52 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Responsibility2nd

Billions upon billions of eternities is a very long time to reflect on the cost of rejecting sound doctrine in favor of what some priest tells you, or some council, or some corrupted bible version.

All of the sin account is settled forever in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

“Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).

And during the course of those eternities, the witness of the truth will never depart from your memory. You will see posts like this from 7/24/2020 at 10:57 A.M. over and over again.


5 posted on 07/24/2020 8:57:05 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: Responsibility2nd
But as I’ve posted before - you are posting FALSE DOCTRINE.

Then; according to your screenname; it is YOUR 'responsibilty' to post TRUE doctrine; instead of just complaining.

62 posted on 07/25/2020 4:43:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Therefore, by faith alone in Christ’s sacrifice ...

I know I’m posting to a bot and bots do not reply. But as I’ve posted before - you are posting FALSE DOCTRINE

Nope...That's what grace is all about...

Heb_2:9  But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Tit 3:4  But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 

Tit 3:5  Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing (no water) of regeneration, (rebirth, spitirual renovation) and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6  Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; (not thru the Catholic religion) 
Tit 3:7  That being justified by his grace : (we have been made just, freely thru faith), we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.  

you are posting FALSE DOCTRINE

This IS the correct doctrine FOR THIS DISPENSATION...

Eph_3:2  If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

You've never heard of it, have you??? It's in the bible...

Given to whom??? The Gentiles...Why???

Col_1:25  Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;

Do you know what part of the word of God was fulfilled in this dispensation??? That's in the bible too...

85 posted on 07/25/2020 8:00:36 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Responsibility2nd

What is false about the verses and doctrine he posted?


258 posted on 07/26/2020 6:19:49 PM PDT by CFW
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