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The bible teaches that God sent His Son to save us from our sins, not in our sins and gives us the power to overcome our sins if we repent and ask for His forgiveness. It's in there. Just look it up and trust his promise!!!
9 posted on 07/24/2020 9:11:59 AM PDT by SierraWasp (MASA (Make America Straight Again!!!))
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Amen, Gods glory and promises are getting to be rarely seen on this website. Argue away, but American Christians are getting lukewarm and becoming lovers of this world.


20 posted on 07/24/2020 3:09:53 PM PDT by delta7
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It's in there. Just look it up …

Most of us will NOT go looking for a needle in a haystack; so why don't you post the verse(s) you want us to read?

69 posted on 07/25/2020 5:06:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SierraWasp
The bible teaches that God sent His Son to save us from our sins, not in our sins and gives us the power to overcome our sins if we repent and ask for His forgiveness. It's in there. Just look it up and trust his promise!!!

Show us the scripture...

86 posted on 07/25/2020 8:03:51 AM PDT by Iscool
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“...in our sins and gives us the power to overcome our sins if we repent and ask for His forgiveness”

ALMOST. REPENT, YES. Ask for forgiveness — no.
We do not ask God for what He already gave us, and He gave us forgiveness at Calvary, as St. Paul makes abundantly clear:

18 Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 namely, that >>>> God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them,<<<< and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
— 2 CORINTHIANS 5:18-19

>>>> This is unilateral Divine forgiveness of the eternal punishment for sin <<<<

God perfected forgiveness at the Cross, ONCE, for all, for all time. And the required response is REPENTANCE. Look at this from ST. Peter’s great sermon at Jerusalem on that first Pentecost:

37 Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brethren, what shall we do?” 38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
— ACTS 2:37-38

NOTE CAREFULLY what Peter DOES NOT tell them to do: he DOES NOT tell them they must ask God to forgive them!
Why? 2 COR. 5 as I noted above: the required forgiveness is universally extended already in the blood of Jesus.

But WAIT! Does that mean everyone in the world is saved, already? BY NO MEANS!! One MIGHT say, “halfway,” but “a miss is as good as a mile,” as the folks used to say.

No. NOBODY is saved just because God has already forgiven them of the eternal penalty of sin; there is yet something remaining to do, and St. Peter preaches it straight: He says they must REPENT.

The language of Christendom is a bit fast and loose at this point, leading innumerable people to believe that they need to be forgiven by a God who, in Christ, has forgiven them already, as St. Paul tells us. No. What is required of man in response is REPENTANCE.


600 posted on 07/31/2020 12:05:21 AM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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