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"He will make the feeblest and filthiest of us into a god or goddess" -- I don't quite follow this. Isn't this veering into Mormonism?
1 posted on 07/29/2020 9:32:37 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

You are correct to have that concern.

Nothing in Scripture says we become gods. It does say we were made in His image. That does not mean we are or will be gods.


2 posted on 07/29/2020 9:39:26 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Cronos

“He will make the feeblest and filthiest of us into a god or goddess” — I don’t quite follow this. Isn’t this veering into Mormonism?

Not at all. It’s a way of saying we share in divinity through Christ and because of Him. It’s grappling with great theological concepts which are difficult to describe. We must use mere words to wrestle with these truths! Lewis was terrific at doing so.


3 posted on 07/29/2020 9:45:14 PM PDT by bluejean (Living one day at a time in the national psych ward)
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To: Cronos

“He will make the feeblest and filthiest of us into a god or goddess” — I don’t quite follow this. Isn’t this veering into Mormonism?
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Some information on the issue here:

“Lupus Occultus: The Paganised Christianity of C. S. Lewis”

https://www.jamesjpn.net/religion/lupus-occultus-the-paganised-christianity-of-c-s-lewis/

Article by Jeremy James quotes:

“The C S Lewis version of Christ “

“What most Christians don’t seem to realise is that this ‘Christ’ – the C S Lewis version of Christ – is not the Messiah Redeemer, but an archetypal figure revered by pagans since ancient times, the perfected man or god-man, the pinnacle of human evolution.

In light of the evidence that I present in this paper, I submit that Lewis chose Christ, rather than Apollo, say, as his god-man archetype because he wished to draw a great many others into his system of belief. While the small circle of committed pagans whom he knew and with whom he met regularly – known as the Inklings – were already in step with his philosophy, there was enormous potential for spreading his ideas by linking them directly to just one ‘mythology,’ that of Judeo-Christianity.

This is why I was surprised to learn that millions of Bible-believing Christians in the US were looking to Lewis for guidance and edification. Most members of the New Age, especially those who have read widely and met with representatives of its various branches, know that C S Lewis is simply a vehicle for drawing new converts into paganism and the New Age movement. He does this by the time-honoured method – pretend to be a friend, use the right terminology, and slowly draw your audience in another direction.. .”


4 posted on 07/29/2020 10:16:46 PM PDT by Norski
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To: Cronos

” “The whole purpose of becoming a Christian is simply nothing else.” “

So good!
We’re like a virus the media/government can’t contain.


9 posted on 07/29/2020 10:54:20 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Cronos

Thank you for an excellent post.

One of my favorite scriptures is John 14:

10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.

25 “All this I have spoken while still with you. 26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

He is already here with us. We must just look within ourselves to find, see, and experience Him.


10 posted on 07/29/2020 11:28:24 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Cronos; ConservativeMind

John 10:34 NIV Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”?

Jesus quoting a Psalm answering his Jewish critics who called him a blasphemer for claiming to be the Son of God. note the little “g” though.

in my experience reading CSL, i’ve never known him misquote the Bible.


11 posted on 07/29/2020 11:36:03 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Cronos

One of the best clues is in Matthew 13, in the Tares in the wheat explanation.

The Parable of the Weeds

24 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.

The Parable of the Weeds Explained

36 Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”

37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man.

38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom.

We are the “Good Seeds” planted here on earth to grow. Seeds of what?

” “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to someone who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while everybody was asleep, an enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and then went away. 26 So when the plants came up and bore grain, then the weeds appeared as well.”

We are the good seeds, but we are still asleep. It is time to awaken.

I have, and it totally changed my life. I began to perceive directly with my consciousness, beyond my physical body. The consciousness of others, i.e. their souls and their soul contents became physical to me. When I walk through their soul, all the stored memories of their life experiences back to conception and prior became physical to my perception.

When I walk into a person’s sin, I feel it just as you would when walking into a physical object.

These things are not done by me, but by the Holy Spirit, Jesus, and Our Father within me.

I am within Them, and They are within me. We are ONE. We just need to awaken to see and become aware of this. (I use Russian Nesting Dolls as a model to explain this, where I am the little doll in the middle and God is the big outer doll)

I’ve spent the last 20 years studying neuroscience to understand how I am able to do these things. It is all as the Bible explains to us. The Bible is the Truth.

We live in the “Flat Consciousness Society.” When we awaken and become whole, we then can tune the operational frequency of our consciousness to higher levels and begin to perceive as Jesus did. We can then see and experience Jesus.

The “raised up” in rapture is this being raised up in frequency of consciousness. It is an awakening of who and what we really are, and why we are here on earth.

It is time.

Blessings.


12 posted on 07/30/2020 12:01:55 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Cronos

The great sin is to reject the Holy Spirit.

I challenge each person to invite the Holy Spirit, the Advocate that teaches us the Way to Our Father, to awaken within them. Do this alone in prayer, not in a group.

If your body starts physically shaking like a dog that just exited the water of the stream, don’t become fearful. It is merely the Holy Spirit shaking the sin from your soul to prepare it so that God’s Love can enter.


14 posted on 07/30/2020 12:24:42 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Cronos

Been listening to C. S. Lewis Broadcast Talks on YouTube. They’re excellent! Although only 1 recording of his own voice exists (which you simply must hear) they are all wonderful....and worth your time.


36 posted on 07/30/2020 2:52:29 AM PDT by sevinufnine
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