Posted on 08/05/2020 9:01:49 AM PDT by ebb tide
As reported by Fishwrap (aka National Schismatic Reporter), it seems that Bp. Robert Barron highly-visible, media-prelate, Auxiliary of Los Angeles,
hosted an invite-only meeting of Catholic media professionals last week to discuss disturbing trends in the online Catholic world, including the rise of radical Traditionalist movements that are often [?] marked by personal attacks and vitriolic commentary.
Personal attacks?!? He would do better to start with those site which manifestly, repeatedly, shamelessly undermine the teachings of the Church and cause scandal, such as the very Fishwrap reporting this non-transparent, secretive meeting! They could start with the positively venomous Michael Sean Winters, who wrote that he wants to watch people with whom he disagrees die, he doesnt think converts should have a voice in the Church, and tries to get people fired from their jobs.
Where is this coming from, you might ask.
The private meeting took place July 29 via Zoom and was confirmed to NCR by Brandon Vogt, content director for Word on Fire Catholic Ministries.
Vogt said that the meeting was initiated at his suggestion and had a threefold purpose, to discuss:
- A culture of contempt among Catholics online;
- The rise of tabloid style news in the Catholic press, often in service of accruing web traffic and video views;
- The influence of the so-called radical Traditionalist (or rad-trad) movements online.
Rad trads are often young Catholics who prefer traditional liturgy, including the Latin Mass, and subscribe to more conservative political beliefs and religious practices.
All of these are major pastoral issues, which is why I proposed to Bishop Barron, in his capacity as bishop, to host a meeting with various Catholic media leaders to discuss these items, said Vogt.
Interesting.
More from Fishwrap:
Vogt said the meeting of Catholic media professionals discussed the online behavior of traditionalists who ruthlessly criticize the pope and bishops, and question the authority of the Second Vatican Council, often to the point of repudiation.
While neither Barron nor Vogt specifically identified individuals or organizations responsible for targeted online attacks, much of the criticism directed at Barron has been fueled by fringe right-wing sites such as LifeSiteNews and Church Militant.
Fringe right-wing sites. Lets drill into that for a moment.
Alexa says that Fishwrap is #101,350 in global internet engagements.
Word On Fire is #122,959.
However, Lifesite News is #25,936.
Church Militant is #74,261.
Similar Web shows Fishwrap at a Global Rank of 53913
Word on Fire is 74513
Life Site News is 18673
Church Militant is 50595.
LifeSite and Church Militant are kicking Fishwraps dissident backside in traffic and even more strongly outpacing the beige Word On Fire.
WHOS THE FRINGE?
Brandon Vogt proposed this anti-trad closed-door meeting. Vogt aimed the meeting at whom? the competition?
I wonder. At any time, did someone ask, How can we get rid of these troublesome trad websites?
I wonder. Did the anti-trad closed-door meeting include any trads? Were any who are considered by them to be trads invited to participate in that meeting? What about dialogue?
There are trads of every stripe, of course. I like Scott Hahns distinction of mad trads, sad trads and glad trads.
I offer two things for Bp. Barrons consideration.
First, if you want to create a firestorm by trying to squelch trad (however you define it) sites, the trads have the matches. Samizdat will be redefined should it ever come to action in that regard.
Second, if you want to demonstrate good will and work on your invite-only agenda in a positive way, Ill help.
Heres the first way:.
Your Excellency, Bishop Barron, please come to Madison to be celebrant for a Pontifical Mass in the Traditional Roman Rite. I assure you that we, for our part, will pull out all the stops. It would be massively attended. It would be a terrific occasion for you to preach to trads (however you define them) and win them over and also to listen to them.
This is, again, a gesture of good will. What say you, Your Excellency?
Please write to me. Im not hard to find.
Fr. Z
Ping
Prior to Vatican II, we were all trads...
God bless Father Z!
SHAME ON that evil Bishop Barron !!!
Overly concerned with anti-Christian rhetoric in the online media culture - while unable to understand the importance, and benefit, of turning Catholicism and Church current events into a click-bait driving free for all....
what is he thinking.... we all agree a little Calumny can be good for the soul....yes?
Secret meetings ! oh the inhumanity of it all....
Signed,
The outrage Mob...
Kind of reminds you of Humble Jorge's secret meetings with Red China, huh Murph?
That’s funny: you hurling out the charge of “calumny” while falsely labeling fellow Catholics you don’t like as “schismatics” and “sedevacantists”.
What a hypocrite.
There is no affirmative evidence for your false charges.
You are guilty of calumny, a sin.
Are the above calumnies, Murph?
Playing the victim, just like Barron.
Poor dears.
So I’m schismatic, sedevacantist, closet democrat.
Boy, you’ve nailed me.
Even your Michael Voris thinks Barron is full of it.
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