Posted on 09/27/2020 2:39:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Once church I go to has a drummer, guitarists, bass player and singer.
The songs are good picks IMHO and again IMHO the band doesn’t distract from the mass and makes the younger folks show up more.
I enjoy it.
Or the church can just use hymns. They have stood the test of time. The presiding minister can easily choose ones that fit the Bible reading of the day.
However after a few months of attending there, I'm not kidding when I say that of the "worship songs" that they used, I wasn't familiar with ANYONE of them and less than 1% of the songs had any mention of God or Jesus on it.
The overall feel of the place (and it was quite large and over 60ft tall in the center of the building, felt more like a rock concert hall than a church. Sadly too was they they were almost all 100% ultra-liberals would constant be preaching on 'racial equality' and not 'oppressing the foreigners' etc.
I'm not kidding when I say that if Hillary made an appearance in there, they would almost worship her like the Messiah.
Oh well, its a sobering thought that ANYONE can be diverted, so even little old me can be diverted too. So after saying all of this that I've lived through with them, I'm not judging them, I'm just reflecting on how they used to operate and function.
I wish they would do that. I loathe "praise" music, but unfortunately, the electric guitar and drums have chased the organ and choir out of most churches today.
Being sang?
Our church solved this question by having praise and other new style songs on the 5th Sunday of each month. As one of the Elders said, Sheep do not all eat from the same patch of grass in a pasture, but chose their sustenance from various places, thus we were insuring that all our congregation (aka sheep in this example) were fed. I think it worked fairly well.
Then there are the liturgical churches that use a common lectionary so that the same scripture, especially the Gospel, is used at all churches everywhere. It has one theme but a selection of OT and Epistle readings, and one Gospel reading for that Sunday. They all publish a hymn guide with a variety of hymns for each Sunday that go along with the theme/readings. Much of Christendom hears the same Gospel throughout the world.
I attended a church numerous times with some friends. The worship songs were fine, but I was so bothered by the sermon, something was not in line with God. It took me a second Sunday to figure it out. The pastor was simply telling a great story with good values and morals. But there were zero references to a single scripture. Nothing. It was so blatantly obvious once I figured it out. The man was a Sunday storyteller, not a pastor.
The frosting on the cake; his wife was in charge of their Recovery program for drugs and alcohol. She ran a tight ship. If you were openly sinning, she was the one to counsel you instead of the head pastor. It was common knowledge that she was the one that would call you on the carpet for gossiping about information learned during the Recovery program, she was the one to even deal with other issues within the church instead of her husband. IMHO he was a figurehead and she was the actual pastor of the church. Bet big money she was also the disciplinarian in their home when their children were small.
I loathe “praise” music, but unfortunately, the electric guitar and drums have chased the organ and choir out of most churches today.
I welcome the change. As long as the lyrics are biblical, Im for it.
yeah :)
good grief eh?
You and me both.
I agree as long as the lyrics are biblical and the worship team doesn’t morph into the Rolling Stones or the Beatles where they think that they are to be given honor instead of the Lord.
IMHO, Selection of worship songs should never be made on the basis of emotion. Lyric content that is consistent with scripture is the most important element.
As a kid, our church elected a volunteer worship leader and backup every year. Same with piano/organ player. I think the church is wasting resources on hiring worship staff. The church had a lively worship service and the members singing was not drowned out by “pros” like today.
In many churches they are catering to those “members” who want to perform. If these members can’t perform, they go somewhere else. Why not have a talent night every Wednesday where those performers do their thing and those that want to listen show up. If no one shows up they could still perform. If someone wants a music career, go into show business or the recording business. I have seen some bands perform concerts in churches and fund themselves by donations.
An affiliated problem in many churches have “members” who leverage their donations to force the church to hire family members for worship or youth leaders.
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Thanks for the reference
Here we go again, arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. I can just see Paul and Barnabas discussing this drivel.
Lead pastor is the final say of the congregation, and these mind deadening hare-krishna like repetitive praise songs are awful... as is a drum set and guitar.
Hymns mattered.
I’d draw the line at pyrotechnics and laser shows. I’ve seen some churches that looked like a Who concert without the pot smoke.
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