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To: Cronos
A liberal friend in my church said "the church needs to change with the times."

Well, here ya go. If homosexuality is OK, why isn't stripping?

6 posted on 09/28/2020 5:35:24 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

This is a jokey thread, but you’ve hit a serious topic — there is a slippery slope. If a church allows divorce and then abortion, then it slips further and further and ultimately becomes like the Unitarians


14 posted on 09/28/2020 5:46:54 AM PDT by Cronos (19 years on FR)
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To: RoosterRedux

Years ago, after Vatican II was forced into Catholics, the pastor left the priesthood for his first love - racing trotters. He then married a lapsed nun.

His successor was even worse. He openly mocked traditional Catholic beliefs. His final sermon was in support of prostitution. He finally admitted to being a Communist and left the Church.

At that point, I left the parish before the rest of the liberal priests got their chance.


23 posted on 09/28/2020 5:59:38 AM PDT by NTHockey (My rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: RoosterRedux

Church, yes, but evangelical, hardly! Someone(s) has a profoundly wrong definition of “evangelical.”


38 posted on 09/28/2020 6:30:11 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: RoosterRedux

“A liberal friend in my church said “the church needs to change with the times.”
Well, here ya go. If homosexuality is OK, why isn’t stripping?”

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Umm,”Why should contemporary churches follow commandments/laws (ie NOT “suggestions”) encapsulated in an ancient book (the Bible) whose author was God”?

Sorta brings to mind the scene from a kindergarten class, where the children were asked to vote whether a particular rabbit was a girl or a boy. When the vote was 57% that the rabbit was a girl, how impressed can you imagine the boy rabbit was?

Then, similarly, how impressed do you imagine the Creator is when folks “vote” to alter God’s word with their “opinions” as to what the commandments/laws should be?

Which leads to the question, “Why isn’t the folly just as ridiculous as when the kindergarteners voted the boy rabbit was a girl”?

The larger question should then be, why even bother wasting your time if you “want” to make it (the rules) up as you go? Might the label, “fool”, be appropriate for such adherents?


54 posted on 09/28/2020 8:35:47 AM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: RoosterRedux

I have a relative who attends the “modern” first baptist church in our small town. This church went hard left back in the 1980’s with women deacons and pastors, liberal doctrine exploded. They were kicked out of the local baptist association because their church resembled a Unitarian church and was nothing like a baptist church.

My wife was a member when this happened and her Mom and grandma didn’t like the changes but refused to give up their church because of these liberal changes. Her grandma told the pastor he maybe an educated man of the world but where the Bible was concerned he was a fool, but as she said I am too old to quit it now. When the church assigned a female deacon to my wife, who was a teenager at the time she told the pastor I cannot go along with you or your teachings, they are not of the Bible but of the world and she left it.

Now my wife’s Mom is still at this church and it’s been dying for decades. An enrollment of several hundred is now down to probably 50-60 maybe, they are having trouble making their bills and their services are like funerals and a socializing event. Their current pastor is a BLM supporter against the police but yet shows up at the police department first thing for a donation from the officers whenever he has a cause. The local police department has noted his rhetoric against them and have told him where to go and how to get there.

I did find it funny after all the leftist bilge this church has accepted and promoted that when gay marriage was legalized their youth choir director married her girlfriend and they were having a baby and the congregation was in a tizzy. I was asked by a member and I said why are you all of a sudden concerned about something being right or wrong, you haven’t cared about right or wrong for 40 years, why start now, which quickly ended that discussion.


58 posted on 09/28/2020 11:44:32 AM PDT by sarge83
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