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To: spacejunkie2001
First - the return was the event mentioned in the article.

Second - I said "repent" in relation to the return - because that is what "The Return 2020" was all about - repenting of national sin - the article mentions it. But to fill you in - the event was the march on DC where Christians repented for the sins of the nation. However - that is not how it works today in the church age. The church - as Jesus points out in Rev 2&3 - has to repent for ITS sins. The Return never touched on that - for obvious reasons - because many of these false teachers were there.

Third - I've seen pictures where he is in a prayer circle (and these are recent) with them - led by the false teacher Paula White. I am simply saying true salvation is the understanding that salvation is through Christ alone. There are MANY who confess Christ as "A" savior. Ask an Episcopalian. In fact - look at the Catholic Catechism #841: "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

That is not salvation. Acknowledging OTHER paths is not faith in salvation alone.

Now - I do NOT know if he has faith in Christ alone and has denounced all other paths - which - BTW - is orthodox Christianity - and is the faith upon which the martyrs died. However - I do know that if the Holy Spirit is inside of a person - it should bear witness of the sin of homosexuality and not affirm it as Melania recently said he did.

38 posted on 12/12/2020 4:57:14 PM PST by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: NELSON111

aren’t you adding alot of assumptions to what they said or what they meant?? I don’t even know what the ‘return of 2020’ is. As for America returning to God; we should. We were once there and it is my prayer we DO repent and turn back to the Father.

As a nation, even believers, we are called to continually repent, to turn from our wicked ways. Look at what Abraham asked the Lord about Sodom and Gomorrah; would He spare the cities if just 5 were righteous. In other words, other people could spare life for those that sin.

I’ll just say this, neither YOU or I really know someone’s heart and if we approach every person that confesses Jesus Christ with cynicism and doubt in our hearts that they are genuine, we will never be content. Remember the scriptures (sorry can’t say where although you might know) where men come to Paul and say others are using the name of Jesus Christ. They thought Paul would be ticked and want them to stop. On the contrary, Paul said let them say it! The more that mention the name of Jesus the better.


40 posted on 12/12/2020 5:15:53 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: NELSON111
If you'll notice in Scripture, there is individual sin and national sin. It's good that we all strive for a sinless life, but that doesn't mean national salvation. When Jonah came to Nineveh, everyone was doomed if they didn't repent. They fortunately repented and God relented. What we weren't told exactly in Scripture was that Nineveh had already experienced an earthquake, disease, and starvation. Having Jonah tell them there was hope if they repented, was a no brainer, so they repented as a nation.

We have experienced 9-11, financial collapse of 2008, (fell to 666 on the S&P by the way), and now Covid. At 9-11, the churches were full for about 3-4 months, BTW. I'm not saying this is the Tribulation because it's not world wide, but The 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse will be War, Famine, Economic Collapse, and Disease. All of those may or may not look like a move of God for the first 3 1/2 years. Many may just feel like this is 2020 returned on steroids. At some point God will make it a point to show He expects repentance. IMO, the Rapture happens at Rev 4:1, so the first seal will be the emergence of the Antichrist. The major part of the Tribulation saints will have died by seal #5. There won't be many left willing to repent.

A look at Solomon's kingdom shows he married non Jews until they changed his heart to pagan and there were pagan altars all across Israel. When Solomon died, Israel split into two pagan nations. Assyria took over the northern part and Babylon took the southern part. It took several years for this to happen, but does anyone believe it wasn't God's hand that did it? Read Eze 16 to see God's point of view on Israel's actions. The whole country was involved, not just Solomon. Hiram, King of Tyre, Eze 28, was Lucifer and Solomon's best friend. Israel stayed a pagan wasteland until King Josiah took charge and knocked the altars down and came back to YHWH.

America NEEDS a revival. We need to pray everywhere and teach God's Word to all Americans, if for nothing else as accurate history. If you are an individual Christian, you need to know that you could die as the country you live in convulses under God's punishment.

Jesus said He would return "as it was in the days of Noah" and "as it was in the days of Lot". I think we probably understand the days of Lot, but many don't understand what the days of Noah were like. The Fallen angels in Gen 6:1 mated with the daughters of men and made monsters called Nephilim. We would call them Chimera's today. They had the ability to change people and animals DNA. God created His Creation and all was "good" before this time. Immediately after the Nephilim were revealed, Noah was introduced and the Flood was promised. The Bible just gives us that their thoughts were continually evil. Evil had existed in Gen 3, but something had changed to cause God to kill everything with breath on the earth. The Nephilim DNA made it onto the Ark, probably from the wives that were brought onboard, the first Nephilim after the Flood was Nimrod per the Septuagint. When the spies were sent to Canaan, they came back saying they were Giants in the land, that devoured the inhabitants. The Sons of Anak produced Goliath and his brothers and ate the people as cannibals.

Today, we are building soldiers that are tougher and more talented as a normal person, we have pig hearts and valves, and designer children among thousands of other uses.

Of course the days of Lot are already here. To accept sodomy and other sexual deviancy is warned about in Leviticus 18.

Lev 18:27 (for all these abominations the men of the land have done, who were before you, and thus the land is defiled),

Lev 18:28 lest the land vomit you out also when you defile it, as it vomited out the nations that were before you.

There won't be any land to save if we keep on as we are.

The Flood killed everyone that wasn't in the Ark (Rapture) and everyone was killed in Sodom save Lot and his family who were rescued before the fire fell. As a Christian, you will be saved into Heaven, but you won't be alive on this earth anymore. You can't live if there is no place to live on. The only answer is for the CHURCH to repent and save everybody else.

I didn't want to get political, but our founders were Christians with guns that decided they wouldn't live under a king that didn't follow the Bible. It could come down to the point that in order to avoid punishment from God, we may have to take on the evil on the earth. Everyday we send our kids into a world that rejects God and His teachings, everyday we teach them that there is more than men and women, killing babies is fine, and all the other bilge they are taught about how Satan wants them to live, God is deciding when He has had enough. We all need to answer the question why we would send our children where God is not welcomed? We cans save the earth by giving our testimony to others concerning Christ, or we will have to confront evil with force. God has no use for earth if it's filled with evil He never designed. There are many references to "soldiers for Christ" "Spiritual warfare" armor, swords, shields, ect. You will either fight spiritually or physically but sitting in your Lazyboy waiting for a Trumpet to blow probably isn't a good plan.

44 posted on 12/13/2020 1:09:23 PM PST by chuckles
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