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Technically, all Christians ought to be Christian Nationalists
NOQ Report ^ | 12/17/2020 | Ray Fava

Posted on 12/17/2020 8:55:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Very few people in Big Eva love the spotlight as much as Beth Moore. She loves making vague statements leveling unsubstantiated accusations against the church. After several months of soothing the conscience of Joe Biden voters, Big Eva is circling the wagons to rally against the biggest threat to Christianity in America, “Christian Nationalism.” Erick Erickson and David “Vichy” French have both chimed in their support of an absolute heretic, while claiming Christ, because Trump Derangement Syndrome is a very ecumenical cult.

Fill in the blank. The greatest threat to the church in America is _________. Marxism, the scamdemic, effeminacy, lukewarmness, are all better answers than Trumpism or Christian Nationalism. Those who worship the state, who view politics as a religion, project this worldview onto those who do not. Christians are not worshipping at the alter of Trump just because they support him. No Christians are justifying his past adulteries or treating Trump as a messianic figure. “Make America Great Again” is a call to a sort of American reformation whereas “Hope and Change” is far more utopian or messianic, and “Build Back Better” especially so given the context of The Great Reset.

The issue here is that Christian Nationalism is undefined. Nationalism has varying definitions. I believe that nationalism is a beta ideology. The definition of nationalist may more accurately be synonymous with patriot. But like populism, one can not simply be a nationalist. This ideology must always enhance an alpha ideology. Alexander Hamilton, Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, John F Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, and Donald Trump are all nationalists despite their vastly differing ideology elsewhere. Nationalism is also an orientation in-between globalism and localism. Whereas socialists in America today are globalist, socialist movements in the past like Nazi Germany were ethno-nationalist. In America, freedom loving patriots debate, like Jefferson and Hamilton, whether freedom is best preserved with a love of country and an emphasis on that or focusing more on caring for one’s state. In 2020, with state governments ramping up their petty tyrannies, one can easily see the federal government and national politics as a means of advancing freedom, hence side towards nationalism over localism.

But let us suppose Evangelicals are worshipping Trump. With churches disobeying God by refusing to gather in person, President Trump fighting Critical Race Theory more than pastors, these people would feel that Trump is fighting the evil that the churches have largely capitulated or retreated from. Though the actions of the idolaters condemn them that practice, this is an indictment on the church’s cowardice.

Alas, as Christians we are ambassadors of a kingdom that’s not of this world, but our King has been given all power, which means all power, in this world. Ambassadors exist to serve their nation’s interests. Ambassador’s of Christ should actively be seeking to make the world more Christlike, not because of our eschatology or because the gospel needs maintenance, rather because faith without works is dead. We have a Great Commission to serve for a Kingdom not of this world. One might call that Christian Nationalism. Now if this Christian Nationalism manifests itself in the form of supporting a movement to reform America to a time when it was greater than the decay I’ve seen in my lifetime, because such a time America was more committed to Christian principles, then that is advancing the cause of the Kingdom. After all, the alternative to this manifestation is globalism which at present speed will take us straight to the Tower of Babel. Many Christians believe that supporting Trump’s brand of nationalism is the best means available to head off the sequel to the Tower of Babel, and who can blame them for wanting that.



TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antichristian; atheismandstate; bethmoore; christians; leftistbigots; nationalism; thenogodgod; trumpism

1 posted on 12/17/2020 8:55:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Will Jews be allowed to serve you as obedient slaves, or is it exile and death again as it was for thousands of years in France, Spain, etc.? Asking for a friend.


2 posted on 12/17/2020 8:57:08 AM PST by golux
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To: SeekAndFind

Well I am a Believer in Jesus Christ, first and foremost. He comes first over everything else in my life. THAT is the way He requires it and how I follow it. I don’t care what Biden or any other of the Communist Marxist’s want, say or do. Kill me? Go ahead. I get to be with the LORD a day or so sooner. As Paul said, to be absent from the body is to be with the LORD. Sounds good to me. I am not afraid of any of the leftist punks. Uncle taught me how to refine the art of using weapons that my father started teaching me before I was 10. So, bring on the hit squad. Do what you want. Dudden matter to me. I will be in the front row watching the LORD deal with these animals at the Great White Throne. THAT will be fine by me when HE takes vengeance against all those who refuse His free offer of pardon.


3 posted on 12/17/2020 9:01:45 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Friends, are you prepared to meet the LORD? Do you KNOW Him? Time is running out.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Seconded, except I have not had the training you have had.

God bless!


4 posted on 12/17/2020 9:34:37 AM PST by sauropod (Cui bono? I will not comply.)
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To: golux
Well, I suppose you could go to Israel, the only religious-ethno state allowed in the western world.

Look, the history of humanity is the history of violence and injustice. How many millions more Chinese were killed by the Japanese than Jews were killed by the Nazi Germans during the Holocaust? The English wiped out more than half the Irish population. The Romani suffered persecution everywhere they went. And would it be “anti-Semitic” of me to point out that the Jews persecuted and slaughtered early Christians and assisted the Pagan Romans in doing so as well?

Whiner.

5 posted on 12/17/2020 9:38:17 AM PST by TheDandyMan
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To: RetiredArmy

In my reading, this morning, in times like this there was always a prophet with a message from God.

All the Prophets preached it, John the Baptist preached it, Jesus preached it, the Apostles preached it. In fact, this is the major message of the whole Bible. (John the Baptist should be the clue)

This should be the only message of the Pope and all church leaders.

That this message is absent is worthy of thought.


6 posted on 12/17/2020 10:02:08 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: golux
Will any attempt at creating a populist government be met with increased amounts of pornography, fake news, neo-Marxism taught in schools, materialism, and increases in finance capitalism over manufacturing?

Asking for a friend.

7 posted on 12/17/2020 10:09:28 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not my current tagline.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just go ahead and call us Christmas Nazis, since the left has labeled all Nationalists, Nazis.


8 posted on 12/17/2020 10:24:44 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: sauropod

Amen, Amen. GOD bless U also!! Hang tough. I feel the Harpazo is near!! I pray every day for it to come NOW!!!


9 posted on 12/17/2020 10:58:57 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Friends, are you prepared to meet the LORD? Do you KNOW Him? Time is running out.)
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To: TheDandyMan

Just because you go along with the left-wing stance on Israel doesn’t make you “Anti-Semitic,” but you are not well traveled and your numbers are way off.

Every one of your declarative sentences is false, unless by “Romani” you mean not Romans but gypsies. And there is a reason, sadly, “Roma” have been persecuted: they are generally but not always a tribe of thieves.

May I recommend reading historical texts about Rome, i.e. Edward Gibbon?


10 posted on 12/18/2020 5:10:59 AM PST by golux
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