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1 posted on 02/16/2021 6:08:19 PM PST by marshmallow
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The Catholic Church’s failure to reflect its concern for the right to life of the unborn

Preborn, preborn, preborn!!! One cannot be unborn.

2 posted on 02/16/2021 6:17:26 PM PST by libertylover (This is not your Founding Fathers' United States of America anymore.)
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She's a pathetic hypocrite:

Mary McAleese stands by Ireland abortion referendum 'yes' vote

Former president of Ireland, Mary McAleese, has said she voted yes in last month’s abortion referendum and that she has no intention of going to confession over it.

3 posted on 02/16/2021 6:20:15 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: marshmallow

This woman’s complaint is nonsense. The Church does not ban unbaptized children from Heaven by decree; eternal life is a gift from God. The issue arises from the former belief that, since only the baptized may enter into the Beatific Vision, children who die before baptism were thought to be in Limbo, with no punishment of Hell, since they have committed no personal sin, but without removal of original sin from baptism. I don’t think this is current Church teaching.


4 posted on 02/16/2021 6:27:15 PM PST by I-ambush (From the brightest star comes the blackest hole; you had so much to offer, did you offer your soul?)
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To: marshmallow

McAleese is so incredibly wrong on this it’s not even funny. It’s pathetic, actually.

Unbaptized, aborted babies most certainly DO NOT go to Hell. They are not guilty of any personal sin. True, they still have the stain of Original Sin and many theologians have doubt as to whether their souls will enjoy the fullness of the vision of God. But they will NOT suffer eternal punishment. There is a little teaching about Limbo which Ms. McAleese might want to google in order to enlighten her ignorance. It’s not official Church teaching, but it’s also not a heresy. I learned about this in 2nd grade catechism class.

And how is the Church to blame for not running into an abortion mill and trying to baptize a baby who’s just been torn apart in an abortion. Is she actually blaming the Church for this? Absurd! This is one of the stupidest charges I’ve ever seen. What’s wrong with her?!


5 posted on 02/16/2021 6:29:42 PM PST by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: marshmallow
People like her who are ignorant of the Catholic faith make even greater fools of themselves when they play at theology.

She's probably alluding to the theological opinion of "Limbo" where it was hypothesized by some (including Thomas Aquinas) that infants that died without being baptized would not go to heaven, but instead would go to a place of natural happiness called in Latin, "limbus infantum". It was never an official teaching of the Church. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states the following:

CCC 1261 As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them," allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism.

6 posted on 02/16/2021 6:30:37 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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This looks like the usual leftist pimping of abortion by hoping to gaslight the pro-life movement. A previous scam was that pro-life advocates supported in utero children up to the moment of birth, then ignored them. Total BS, and the lowest form of sophistry and moral relativism. How is it that Ireland has produced some of the most notorious haters of late? Mary Robinson, Samantha Power; more vicious anti-semites and anti-Israel fanatics never were. Suspect this clown is of a similar mindset.


8 posted on 02/16/2021 6:31:42 PM PST by DPMD
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To: marshmallow

Baptism, and that will include Catholic baptism, does not give eternal life. GOD gives eternal life by putting HIS SEED in the human spirit. A priest of any religion or denomination cannot convey eternal life by sprinkling water and saying a ‘sacramental recitation’.


9 posted on 02/16/2021 6:34:35 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: marshmallow

Satan is great at causing confusion. The dummy doesn’t know what she is talking about.


10 posted on 02/16/2021 6:37:32 PM PST by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: marshmallow

She needs to take that up with God, not “Catholic teaching “ as if salvation is somehow generated in the Church.

Salvation only comes from Jesus, even though it is mediated by divine decreee throughthe Catholic Church.

What the Church teaches is not the Churches own authority but the Authority of Jesus Christ. If she wants clearity she should look the the cross.

She is an antichrist in what she speaks, twisting in ignorance what Authentic Church teaching is.


11 posted on 02/16/2021 6:53:49 PM PST by Bayard
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To: marshmallow

The Communist Purge Is Growing Exponentially & Nothing Is Being Done About It!

14 posted on 02/16/2021 8:31:55 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Joe McCarthy now that we desperately need him sober?)
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To: marshmallow

How did this even get published? Since when is McAleese a theologian?


20 posted on 02/17/2021 11:43:20 AM PST by Marchmain (i vote pro-life)
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To: marshmallow

This is so disgusting, to even contemplate that a just GOD is capable of what these so called ministers(fallen) say to or of mankind,(created in the image of GOD) it shows who they are aligned with.(Self or Satan?)


21 posted on 02/17/2021 4:51:10 PM PST by MAAG (Tetelestai, paid in full. You are as righteous as God is. Double jeopardy is forbidden.)
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