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Are there Prophets in the church today? To answer the question, let's understand what "Prophet" means
Christian Post ^ | 02/18/2021 | Jason Jimenez

Posted on 02/18/2021 8:05:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Turn on your T.V., and you are bound to come across a religious show with someone declaring they speak for God. Go to your local bookstore, and there I'm sure you will find several books written by people who say they have received divine revelations from God. Jump on YouTube, and you will definitely see videos of preachers proclaiming, "Thus saith the Lord."

This barrage of "prophetic words" from thousands of voices has undoubtedly caused many Christians to become confused. In one camp, you have Christians who get caught up in the sensationalism of prophetic words espoused by the Word of Faith movement. In another camp, you have Christians who doubt prophecy altogether because they lack the faith to understand its intended purpose in the body of Christ. While still, some don't know what to believe.

Therefore, let's turn to the Bible to see what it has to say about prophets.

The first thing we notice from Paul is that there are prophets in the church today. Recorded in Ephesians 4:11-13, Paul mentions the prophet's office in the church. And not only that, but Paul also describes the gift of prophecy in 1 Corinthians 12:10. As a matter of fact, the gift of prophecy is mentioned more than any of the other spiritual gifts. You can find it in these passages: Romans 12:6, 1 Corinthians 12:27-29; 13:1-3, 8; 14:6, and in Ephesians 4:11.

That said, it's vital to understand that the prophet's office in modern times is not the same as Old Testament prophets. Before Jesus came to earth, God raised up prophets (Hebrew, nabi, "to utter") or seers (spokesmen) as national leaders who spoke with specificity and with 100% accuracy in their prophecies (Deut. 18:20-22; Jer. 23:28, 31-33). But after the ascension of Christ to heaven and the completion of the written Word, God utilizes his modern prophets in different ways than he did with Samuel, Daniel, and Isaiah. The writer of Hebrews clears this up when he opened his letter with these words: "Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world" (1:1-2).

Furthermore, according to 1 Corinthians 14:3-4, a prophet's primary role now is to edify, comfort, and uplift the church. However, that does not mean predictive prophecy is not exercised among some prophets of God. Like Agabus (in Acts 11:27-28), there are times when a prophet will give a prophetic word from God about the future. That is why we are not to neglect prophecy in the church (1 Thessalonians 5:19-21). But again, the primary purpose of the gift of prophecy in the church age is to encourage and exhort one another (1 Cor. 14:31). Prophets are not called by God to generate visions that others in the church cannot judge (1 Corinthians 14:29).

Therefore, we are not to look to prophets for new revelation but for exhortation according to Scripture's illumination.

In closing, here are six indicators to help you distinguish between a true prophet and a false prophet.

  1. A true prophet's word will come to pass. A false prophet's predictive word will not come to pass (Deut. 18; Jer. 23).
  2. A true prophet never gives a word that contradicts the Bible. A false prophet will twist Scripture to validate a dream or vision they had. For example, false prophets will take prophecies explicitly intended for Israel and apply them to the United States — directly contradicting God's promises in the Bible.
  3. A true prophet does not brag or is greedy for gain. A false prophet brags about receiving a "prophetic word" or vision from God as if they are divinely anointed and exploits the church for financial gain.
  4. A true prophet's ministry aligns with what the Bible teaches. A false prophet talks more about their heavenly visions and "prophetic words" than they teach contextually from the Holy Bible. Lamentations 2:14, "Your prophets have seen for you false and deceptive visions; they have not exposed your iniquity to restore your fortunes, but have seen for you oracles that are false and misleading."
  5. A true prophet edifies the church and points people to Jesus Christ. A false prophet doesn't call people to repentance but shares messages that appeal to their wants and desires. 2 Timothy 4:3-4, "For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths."
  6. A true prophet's defense comes from the Holy Spirit. A false prophet continually tells people they are not a false prophet.

Jason Jimenez is president of Stand Strong Ministries (www.standstrongministries.org), a faculty member at Summit Ministries, and a best-selling author who specializes in apologetics and biblical worldview training.


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: church; profits; prophecy; prophets
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1 posted on 02/18/2021 8:05:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes but the office label is highly abused. There are many false prophets in these latter days.


2 posted on 02/18/2021 8:08:22 AM PST by patriot torch (Ashlie Babbitt-say her name)
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To: SeekAndFind
A prophet is anyone who speaks Truth. That truth may be in the form of a prediction, or it may be the Gospel.

Either way, that person is a prophet.

3 posted on 02/18/2021 8:08:24 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: SeekAndFind

“The first thing we notice from Paul is that there are prophets in the church today.”

No.


4 posted on 02/18/2021 8:10:55 AM PST by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

RE: No.

Depends on how you understand the term “prophet”.


5 posted on 02/18/2021 8:12:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: ShadowAce

A prophet is anyone who speaks Truth. That truth may be in the form of a prediction, or it may be the Gospel.

Either way, that person is a prophet.

Yes. People we call prophets today are not what was meant in the past.

Same word but the meaning is different. It’s related, but no one speaks for God today the way the prophets did in the past.

No one is going to add to the Word of God, which is what would happen if true prophets were still operating.


6 posted on 02/18/2021 8:15:23 AM PST by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

Your reply to me contradicts your post #4.


7 posted on 02/18/2021 8:16:33 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: SeekAndFind

False prophets abound these days.


8 posted on 02/18/2021 8:20:00 AM PST by Huskrrrr (Pronouns? I need no stinkin pronouns.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Indicator #3 is particularly telling. Most TV “prophets” link their messages to contributions. “When I was a young man G-d told me to give my church my last $1000. And the very next week I got the job of my dreams. This will work for you, too. Call the number below. Do it now!”

(Unfortunately, I’m not exaggerating here.)


9 posted on 02/18/2021 8:26:54 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls, and tenement halls


10 posted on 02/18/2021 8:28:02 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: ShadowAce

“Your reply to me contradicts your post #4.”

Thanks for the comment, Ace.

No.

We use prophet today in a different way.

Same word different meaning.

There are no prophets today as in the past in biblical times. These people were used by God to speak directly for God. Their experiences, actions, writings etc... were so important and revelatory that they were incorporated in to the written Word of God. This is one mark of a prophet.

We know that the Word of God is complete and we are not to add to it or take away from it.

Thus the age of the prophet is over. We need no prophet. We have the Word if God and direct access to God in Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit in that they are one.


11 posted on 02/18/2021 8:34:54 AM PST by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan
We know that the Word of God is complete and we are not to add to it or take away from it.

But we don't know that.

It *is* sufficient for us at this time, but we do not know if it complete since we cannot foretell the future or what God may do then.

As far as adding or taking away from it, I assume you are talking about Rev. 22:19. That verse is talking strictly about that book--not Scriptures as a whole. The Bible as we know it did not exist in any form when that was written.

Adding new scripture is not off the table--as long as it agrees with existing scripture 100%. I don't think it will happen, mind you, but there is nothing in Scripture that prohibits it or denies modern day prophets (using the OT meaning).

12 posted on 02/18/2021 8:59:14 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: ifinnegan

Malachi:

Behold I will send you EliYah the Prophet before the great and terrible Day of YHWH.
And he shall turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with cursing.

That EliYah was John.
Six months before the Passover Lamb came on the scene, he was sent. To prepare the way.

Since He changes not, it would seem that there is a potential for EliYah the Prophet to be sent.
To prepare the way.
Not for the Lamb, but for the Lion.

Will that EliYah the Prophet be received the same way as EliYah the Prophet, John, was received?
Will he be imprisoned? Beheaded?

We have yet to reach the Day of YHWH. He says He will send EliYah the Prophet before that day.
To restore hearts.

The world seems to need that. It seems that is even needed within the Body of Christ itself.
After about 2,000 swine years, the world may need a refresher and restoration to prepare His Way.

Nevertheless, when He returns will He find faith on the earth?


13 posted on 02/18/2021 9:11:31 AM PST by delchiante
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To: ShadowAce

“We know that the Word of God is complete and we are not to add to it or take away from it.”

**But we don’t know that.**

Why would you say that. Book of Revelation states this clearly.

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“As far as adding or taking away from it, I assume you are talking about Rev. 22:19. That verse is talking strictly about that book—not Scriptures as a whole. The Bible as we know it did not exist in any form when that was written.”

Yes I am talking about that.

Are you Mormon?


14 posted on 02/18/2021 9:48:41 AM PST by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

We know that the Word of God is complete and we are not to add to it or take away from it.


We do? How do we know the Word of God is complete? Who told us that? If Jesus is God and Jesus is supposed to have a second coming, would that mean the Word of God is incomplete? Can’t have a second-coming of Jesus if God’s Word is complete for when Jesus arrives, assuming you believe he is god, then surely he will say more to add to what he has already said. God’s Word is never complete. To think so you might as well be wearing a tinfoil hat and rubbing your forefinger up and down your lips as you say buh-buh-buh.


15 posted on 02/18/2021 9:48:49 AM PST by zaxtres (`)
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To: zaxtres

How does your comment address the question of are there prophets today?


16 posted on 02/18/2021 9:52:25 AM PST by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

Real actual prophets who speak for God of future events? No.


17 posted on 02/18/2021 9:58:58 AM PST by lurk ( )
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To: ShadowAce
“The Bible as we know it did not exist in any form when that was written.”

Actually the entire Bible had been written by the time Revelation was penned. While the various books were not compiled under one cover, each book was used in certain churches.

18 posted on 02/18/2021 10:30:20 AM PST by circlecity
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To: ifinnegan

No. I am not mormon. Did you read my reasoning? The Bible did not exist at the time that was written, so it was not talking about Scripture in general.


19 posted on 02/18/2021 10:31:42 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: circlecity
Actually the entire Bible had been written by the time Revelation was penned. While the various books were not compiled under one cover, each book was used in certain churches.

Agreed. But they were not compiled into one tome. They were letters (NT) or existing books (OT), and were viewed as such.

20 posted on 02/18/2021 10:33:41 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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