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Another Easter without Mass: What happened to Catholic Ireland?
LifeSite News ^ | April 2, 2021 | Michael Haynes

Posted on 04/03/2021 10:25:54 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide

I am from the same family as Michael Collins. My descendants fought and doubtlessly some died in the fight to free Ireland and the right to practice their holy Catholic faith.
Now in just 100 years that right has been stepped on and pushed aside by an ungrateful people being led to ruin by satan.
Shame on Ireland. I will never go there again.


21 posted on 04/03/2021 11:18:30 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: Captain Walker

It is interesting, and it may seem that replacing the country’s Eighth Amendment with the Thirty-Sixth so rapidly makes things seem more cultural than not; but it takes more than a solely cultural movement to come up with something like the Eighth Amendment in the first place (which gave equal protection to the lives of both the mother and the unborn child). My friends in Ireland never felt a mere cultural connection with their religion.

BTW, with the issue of voter fraud so prominent these days and the media so eager to squash it, it begs the question as to how the votes were counted in the referendums with respect to both abortion and homosexual marriage in Ireland; such matters are never isolated to one country.


22 posted on 04/03/2021 11:21:13 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: nickcarraway

Ireland stopped being an independent nation back in 1972 when they joined the European Union, back then called the European Economic Community. They have been a province of that empire (as José Manuel Barroso called it) ever since, and their national character was chipped away and eroded with increasing intensity directly proportional to the extent of that empire’s power over its “member states” (read: client states).

The EU’s abuse of power was one of the reasons for “Brexit”, of course; the EU thereupon has been engaged in continuous violation of the Good Friday Agreement due to the issue with Northern Ireland.


23 posted on 04/03/2021 11:26:51 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: ebb tide

Every time I read that someone says for the common good I think of Communism


24 posted on 04/03/2021 11:35:42 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier
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To: ebb tide; Jim Noble
Like Quebec, Ireland associates Catholicism and religion with their impoverished rural past. They wanted what their wealthy neighbors had and leaving religion behind seemed a way to get it.

After Quebec, and now Ireland, we see that unlike Protestants who are disillusioned with their church, who inevitably go and start new ones, Catholics who lose their church become atheists.

That is a very American way of looking at it. Protestants in developing countries may also go on to found new churches, but look at Britain, Holland, France, Germany, Scandinavia: plenty of Protestants lose their religion and don't form new churches.

I wouldn't say the Irish became atheists in the sense of being convinced that there is no God, either. They became indifferents, as many Protestants around the world have. But many Catholics in Latin America have gone on to join or found new churches, Protestant or Pentacostal.

25 posted on 04/03/2021 11:40:39 AM PDT by x
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To: Captain Walker

Yes, Ireland hasn’t been Catholic for decades. But then again, due to Vatican II, much of what is considered “Catholic” isn’t.


26 posted on 04/03/2021 11:40:41 AM PDT by piusv (Francis didn't start the Fire)
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To: Steve_Seattle
No wonder some Protestants were horrified at this "idolatry."

Is that why you're a protestant now?

27 posted on 04/03/2021 11:42:57 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Olog-hai

In the particular case of Ireland, the E.U. afforded them “cover” for Union with Great Britain (an obvious necessity) without having to have The Union.

Now, Brexit has set in motion an unpredictable chain of events, we can’t see the outcome but some sort of new structure to the relationship is inevitable.


28 posted on 04/03/2021 11:43:13 AM PDT by Jim Noble (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: ebb tide

What happened to Catholic Ireland? The same thing that happened to most other Catholic states in Western Europe: Vatican II. When the Church left the people, and is now oh so surprised that the people responded by leaving the Church.

The epitaph of that disaster will be the one written by John Foxe: “Hodie infusum est venenum in ecclesia Dei”


29 posted on 04/03/2021 12:00:48 PM PDT by Samuel Smiles
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To: ebb tide

Ireland legalized abortions so then hell broke in.

That’s what happened to Catholic Ireland


30 posted on 04/03/2021 12:24:10 PM PDT by stanne
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To: jmaroneps37

When Ireland issued a stamp celebrating Che Guevara, I decided I would never visit there.


31 posted on 04/03/2021 12:27:53 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: piusv

The collapse of the Faith in Ireland began long before Vatican II; you can’t blame the Second Vatican Council for this (even as the “Spirit of Vatican II” might have hastened its demise).


32 posted on 04/03/2021 2:17:04 PM PDT by Captain Walker ("Every high civilization decays by forgetting obvious things." - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Samuel Smiles
What happened to Catholic Ireland? The same thing that happened to most other Catholic states in Western Europe: Vatican II. When the Church left the people, and is now oh so surprised that the people responded by leaving the Church.

One of the reasons that Vatican II was called was to address the declining church attendance in Europe after WWII, particularly in France (the eldest daughter of the Church).

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33 posted on 04/03/2021 2:45:41 PM PDT by Captain Walker ("Every high civilization decays by forgetting obvious things." - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: ebb tide

What happened to Ireland is what happened to the Universal Church: it was spiritually destroyed by the Satan Vatican Council (1962-1965). The only Catholics in Ireland at this point are immigrants from Poland!

Here’s an Index of the extent of the destruction the Council had accomplished by 2002. Now, almost 20 years later, the current Jesuit Pope is working diligently to complete the destruction.

https://www.olrl.org/misc/jones_stats.shtml


34 posted on 04/03/2021 3:08:23 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Conceding the result of a fraudulent election is both irrational and immoral.)
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To: ebb tide

The most Catholic country in Europe is rapidly becoming the most Atheist country in a rapidly atheizing continent.


35 posted on 04/03/2021 4:01:47 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe fff)
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To: ebb tide

Criminal government supported by criminal voters. Remember who the real enemy is. It is your neighbor who votes for despotic government. In the US, that means all democrat party voters are the enemy.


36 posted on 04/04/2021 7:35:31 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Captain Walker
How Catholic was Ireland to begin with?

How far back do you want to look? Even before the harsh poverty imposed by the English for 800 years, the basic ethos of Ireland was pagan, atop a warrier feudalism; add the genetic vulnerabilities of thyroid trouble and alcoholism, and you can see why its version of Catholicism became strictly authoritarian and shame-inflicting.

Now, the EU is in there to throw around money along with Soros, both stirring up the latent paganism to slip their evil under Irish noses —as well as injecting resentful muslims and Eastern Europeans under the Schengen treaty to unsettle Irish political unity. Under this perfect storm, anti-Catholicism has been an easy sell. Ordinary Irish people have had no idea what's been going on.

37 posted on 04/05/2021 10:40:35 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("One steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them."—Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh)
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