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[Catholic Caucus] After mystical experience, priest announces Communion only on the tongue and kneeling
LifeSite News ^ | April 26, 2021 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 04/26/2021 3:01:48 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] After mystical experience, priest announces Communion only on the tongue and kneeling

h2 class="art-title"?Fr. Fredy Leonardo Herrera Fuentes in Bogotá, Colombia, told parishioners that 'from this moment in our parish, it’s only going to be possible to receive Holy Communion on the tongue and kneeling down.'

April 26, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — In February, a priest was caught on video having a mystical experience during Mass after which he went straight to the pulpit to announce that from that moment on, Holy Communion at that parish would only be given on the tongue and kneeling. The video, which has gone viral with nearly two million views, captured the priest bowing down (practically doubling over), shaking, and crying. He was bowed down for about 20 seconds, which is of course a long time during Mass while everyone is waiting. 

In this episode of The John-Henry Westen Show, I show you that clip and exactly what he said, but also I get clarification on what such a declaration is all about from well-known theologian and liturgical expert Dr. Peter Kwasniewski. This way, we can unpack this properly.

On February 7, 2021, at the conclusion of the 11 a.m. Sunday Mass, Fr. Fredy Leonardo Herrera Fuentes, pastor of Immaculate Heart of Mary parish in Bogotá, Colombia, told parishioners that “from this moment in our parish, it’s only going to be possible to receive Holy Communion on the tongue and kneeling down.” 

A priest who goes by the name Miles Mariae, “the soldier of Mary,” has produced an English voice-over version of the video and given me permission to use it. So here is the link to the video with thanks to Father Miles Mariae.

Dr. Kwasniewski told me that there is a problem with a priest at a Novus Ordo parish refusing Holy Communion to those who wish to receive on the hand in a diocese where that is permitted. “Almost any canon lawyer (and certainly any bishop) would say no, he cannot refuse, because the Church’s discipline (however flawed it may be) expressly allows for this.” 

I asked Dr. Kwasniewski what would happen in the case where a priest is so convinced of the wrongness of Holy Communion in the hand that he feels in conscience he cannot give Communion in the hand even when the faithful demand it. 

Dr. Kwasniewski said, “it is always UNDERSTOOD that if one’s conscience says that a proposed course of action is sinful or risks committing sin or being a near occasion of sin, one must refrain from it.” 

He added, however, that the priest making such a decision would likely get suspended by his bishop. Dr. Kwasniewski knows several priests who have been suspended over this.

I, too, know of priests who are tortured in conscience about having to administer Holy Communion in so unworthy a manner. In fact, my own father, Henry Westen, was an ordained deacon in the Maronite rite late in his life. He would never administer Holy Communion in the hand, and so at the parish where he served, the priests would announce that those wishing to receive on the hand should not be on the side where Deacon Westen was distributing Holy Communion. 

For me, the matter is quite clear. Some of you may recall that in one of my previous shows I covered this issue with a video called “5 reasons why Catholics should only receive Holy Communion on the tongue.” I encourage you to watch that if you’re interested.

This matter of the proper way to receive Our Lord is so important that Voice of the Family did a whole conference on the subject in July 2020. As part of that conference, Catholic veteran pro-life activists from across the world joined together in unison to declare that they would only receive Holy Communion on the tongue while kneeling out of reverence to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 

The joint  declaration featured  well-known Catholic pro-life leaders such as Dr. Gianna Molla, daughter of St. Gianna Beretta Molla, LifeSite’s Steve Jalsevac, pro-life warrior  Abby Johnson, C-Fam President Austin Ruse, the Pachamama “destroyer” Alexander Tschugguel, Michael Matt from The Remnant Newspaper, and Virginia Coda Nunziante,  the head of the March for Life in Italy, and more. 

With so much irreverence for Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament today, I would beg you to consider making the sacrifice of receiving Jesus worthily, kneeling and on the tongue.

April 26, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — In February, a priest was caught on video having a mystical experience during Mass after which he went straight to the pulpit to announce that from that moment on, Holy Communion at that parish would only be given on the tongue and kneeling. The video, which has gone viral with nearly two million views, captured the priest bowing down (practically doubling over), shaking, and crying. He was bowed down for about 20 seconds, which is of course a long time during Mass while everyone is waiting. 

In this episode of The John-Henry Westen Show, I show you that clip and exactly what he said, but also I get clarification on what such a declaration is all about from well-known theologian and liturgical expert Dr. Peter Kwasniewski. This way, we can unpack this properly.

On February 7, 2021, at the conclusion of the 11 a.m. Sunday Mass, Fr. Fredy Leonardo Herrera Fuentes, pastor of Immaculate Heart of Mary parish in Bogotá, Colombia, told parishioners that “from this moment in our parish, it’s only going to be possible to receive Holy Communion on the tongue and kneeling down.” 

A priest who goes by the name Miles Mariae, “the soldier of Mary,” has produced an English voice-over version of the video and given me permission to use it. So here is the link to the video with thanks to Father Miles Mariae.

Dr. Kwasniewski told me that there is a problem with a priest at a Novus Ordo parish refusing Holy Communion to those who wish to receive on the hand in a diocese where that is permitted. “Almost any canon lawyer (and certainly any bishop) would say no, he cannot refuse, because the Church’s discipline (however flawed it may be) expressly allows for this.” 

I asked Dr. Kwasniewski what would happen in the case where a priest is so convinced of the wrongness of Holy Communion in the hand that he feels in conscience he cannot give Communion in the hand even when the faithful demand it. 

Dr. Kwasniewski said, “it is always UNDERSTOOD that if one’s conscience says that a proposed course of action is sinful or risks committing sin or being a near occasion of sin, one must refrain from it.” 

He added, however, that the priest making such a decision would likely get suspended by his bishop. Dr. Kwasniewski knows several priests who have been suspended over this.

I, too, know of priests who are tortured in conscience about having to administer Holy Communion in so unworthy a manner. In fact, my own father, Henry Westen, was an ordained deacon in the Maronite rite late in his life. He would never administer Holy Communion in the hand, and so at the parish where he served, the priests would announce that those wishing to receive on the hand should not be on the side where Deacon Westen was distributing Holy Communion. 

For me, the matter is quite clear. Some of you may recall that in one of my previous shows I covered this issue with a video called “5 reasons why Catholics should only receive Holy Communion on the tongue.” I encourage you to watch that if you’re interested.

This matter of the proper way to receive Our Lord is so important that Voice of the Family did a whole conference on the subject in July 2020. As part of that conference, Catholic veteran pro-life activists from across the world joined together in unison to declare that they would only receive Holy Communion on the tongue while kneeling out of reverence to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 

The joint  declaration featured  well-known Catholic pro-life leaders such as Dr. Gianna Molla, daughter of St. Gianna Beretta Molla, LifeSite’s Steve Jalsevac, pro-life warrior  Abby Johnson, C-Fam President Austin Ruse, the Pachamama “destroyer” Alexander Tschugguel, Michael Matt from The Remnant Newspaper, and Virginia Coda Nunziante,  the head of the March for Life in Italy, and more. 

With so much irreverence for Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament today, I would beg you to consider making the sacrifice of receiving Jesus worthily, kneeling and on the tongue.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: hoof; novusordo; paw; penticostal; sacrilege

1 posted on 04/26/2021 3:01:48 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 04/26/2021 3:02:56 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

When you read the book Eucharistic Miracles you can understand that reasoning, and I wholeheartedly agree with him.


3 posted on 04/26/2021 3:07:15 PM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: Dad was my hero

Thanks. I have that book.


4 posted on 04/26/2021 3:17:00 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

It’s not possible for some of us older folks to kneel with no communion rail or support (weak knees) but I do at least genuflect.


6 posted on 04/26/2021 3:34:09 PM PDT by Marchmain (i vote pro-life)
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To: Dad was my hero

7 posted on 04/26/2021 3:39:12 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Marchmain

Even the most traditional priest will give communion on the tongue standing to someone who cannot kneel for medical reasons.


8 posted on 04/26/2021 3:57:49 PM PDT by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: Marchmain
That's never been a problem. I've seen faithful Catholics with walkers or in wheelchairs, standing or sitting, respectively, while receiving Holy Communion on the tongue.

I even saw one young father, of many children, who had become a quadriplegic, receive on the tongue while laying on his back on a gurney.

9 posted on 04/26/2021 3:58:11 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

This is as it should be, with dispensation for physical conditions that preclude kneeling for some. On the tongue with reverence is the key.


10 posted on 04/26/2021 4:10:54 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Any comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: ebb tide

Pachamama “destroyer” Alexander Tschugguel


I prefer to refer to him as “Pachamama’s swim coach”.


11 posted on 04/26/2021 4:12:32 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ebb tide

I think it is amazing that this priest was struck by this sudden conviction. I am looking forward to the day when Communion is again offered on the tongue. Not an option in our diocese due to Covid-19. The video showed the priest was in a very modern church building, complete with a presider’s chair straight off the bridge of the USS Enterprise. I would be interested to know what he thought of Communion on the tongue prior to his experience.


12 posted on 04/26/2021 4:30:21 PM PDT by I-ambush (From the brightest star comes the blackest hole; you had so much to offer, did you offer your soul?)
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To: ebb tide

DO NOT PING ME, EVER. I HAVE NO INTEREST IN ANYTHING YOU POST.
GET LOST!


13 posted on 04/26/2021 4:52:22 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Guilt complex, perhaps?


14 posted on 04/26/2021 5:01:49 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Marchmain

When John Paul was pope he made sure that people in the diocese of Rome only received on the tongue. I do remember reading in the Wanderer years ago that if kneeling is not feasible, that if you showed some form of respect like a bow or a genuflection that would suffice. I usually grab the front pew and genuflect.


15 posted on 04/26/2021 6:19:24 PM PDT by Slyfox
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