Posted on 02/27/2022 1:03:56 PM PST by circlecity
I went to Young’s Analytical Concordance to the Bible and therein found hundreds of citations under Spirit. I don’t know if that helps, but you might find a good Concordance and then move forward as the Spirit moves you.
St. Patrick’s Bad Analogies on the Trinnity (4 minutes, humor)
“The problem with using analogies to explain the Holy Trinity is that you always end up confessing some ancient heresy”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLfgaUoQCw
Young’s concordance is not available as a Logos Bible resource. It is available on Amazon but only in a paper form. Unfortunately these old eyes don’t handle printed text very well anymore so I stick to digital resources. But I have several good concordances available and intend to make good use of them.
The Son of God declared that everything he has (not ‘had’, because he is still the same) he received from his Father, even his life.
In Nebuchadnezzar’s first (God given) dream, the Son is the ‘stone’ cut out of the ‘mountain’ without hands. (Mary didn’t make the Son of God, because only God can make a soul. Mary was used to help make a fleshly habitation for that soul here on earth).
The stone’s beginning was as an indistinguishable part of the mountain being brought forth ‘without hands’. And the stone would therefore have similar ingredients, although much smaller than the mountain. (As Jesus Christ said: My Father is greater than I.
On earth, men (and women) carry the seeds of their attributes, which are passed on as their procreated children.
Just like the Son of God, the Holy Ghost proceeds from God the Father. Both do the will of the Father, for even Christ said that his words were not his, but his Father’s. So, obeying the words of Christ, is actually obeying the Father.
How do you get from this:
Of course it's ultimately a mystery; created intellect cannot perfectly grasp or fully understand the relationships within the Godhead.
... to what you said? "Accepting developed doctrine on its own merits" won't get you to a perfect understanding of the relationships with the Godhead either, because your mind simply isn't capable of it. No human being's mind is.
Do you think you have a perfect and complete understanding of nature? If so, you're wrong. Do you think any human, even the most brilliant scientists on earth, have a perfect and complete understanding of nature? Wrong again. (And those scientists would be the first to admit it.)
Guess what ... God created nature. He is therefore bigger and harder to understand (intellectually) than nature, because the lesser cannot create the greater.
QED. How you get from the inability of created intellect to perfectly comprehend the infinite Divine to "just accept developed doctrine on its own merits" I'll let you try to explain.
The Catholic Church developed and formalized that idea along with the Nicene Creed whic is also not cited or to be found in the Bible.
As well as every other doctrinal statement about orthodox Christology. I have no idea why anyone would be surprised that a creed written to summarize the Bible (on one short list of topics only) wouldn't itself be in the Bible. That's like complaining that the Cliffs Notes for "Hamlet" weren't written by Shakespeare.
The Catholic Church developed and formalized that idea along with the Nicene Creed
... and every other orthodox statement about Christology. All of this was hashed out and well understood before AD 600, and all of the people doing the "hashing" considered themselves to be Catholics. All Protestants who think about these things accept the Christology of the Council of Chalcedon. That's just the way it is. Ask your minister if you don't believe me.
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