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Ukrainian Bishops beg Pope Francis: CONSECRATE RUSSIA NOW! (CATHOLIC CAUCUS)
YOUTUBE ^ | Wednesday, 2 March 2022 | Dr. Taylor Marshall

Posted on 03/02/2022 9:45:36 AM PST by GonzoII

Ukrainian Bishops beg Pope Francis: CONSECRATE RUSSIA NOW!

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TOPICS: Catholic; History
KEYWORDS: antipope; fatima; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; romancatholicism; russia; russianaggression; ukraine
I think it’s time.
1 posted on 03/02/2022 9:45:36 AM PST by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

Do you think any consecration by Jorge (the p00P) is going to make a positive difference?


2 posted on 03/02/2022 9:48:43 AM PST by Scarlett156 (Vaping is for homosexuals. )
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To: Scarlett156

He is so ordained despite himself. Basically baptism is on him if he refuses, not on the unbaptized who asks.


3 posted on 03/02/2022 9:53:25 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: GonzoII
I can't imagine Pope Francis doing this.

Especially since I believe it also requires participation by many Cardinals.

4 posted on 03/02/2022 9:54:27 AM PST by G Larry (Tolerance will rise until intelligent people are banned from thinking to avoid offending imbeciles)
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To: GonzoII

I don’t understand the use of the word Consecrate.

Consecrate: make or declare (something, typically a church) sacred; dedicate formally to a religious or divine purpose.

How would declaring Russia sacred help?


5 posted on 03/02/2022 9:57:33 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: G Larry

All bishops in union with the Holy Father. Cardinals are bishops. If some refuse to participate that would be on them it seems. The Pope would have done his duty. —Freegards


6 posted on 03/02/2022 9:59:44 AM PST by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen )
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To: DannyTN
“How would declaring Russia sacred help?”

If something is sacred it’s set aside for God that means God takes over regarding Russia.

7 posted on 03/02/2022 10:06:38 AM PST by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen )
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To: GonzoII

“The Pope! How many divisions has he got?”

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin


8 posted on 03/02/2022 10:15:37 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: GonzoII

Putin visited the Pope about 3 years ago, IIRC, and at that time, he actually asked the Pope to consecrate Russia to Our Lady. Putin is an Orthodox Christian but Our Lady of Fatima and her request have long been very symbolic in Russia.

Guess what...the Pope (Bergoglio) declined to do it.

And I think that’s why the current things are happening. If the Pope had consecrated Russia to Our Lady...at the request of Putin himself, so less...things might be very different.

Personally, I doubt that he’ll do it at the request of the Ukrainians either.


9 posted on 03/02/2022 12:11:24 PM PST by livius
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To: GonzoII

Original request was made in 1917 at Fatima but was ignored to the delight of Stalin and the Communist world.


10 posted on 03/02/2022 1:18:50 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: DannyTN

>>dedicate formally to a religious or divine purpose.<<

You got it. Want to know more about it? Read about the apparitions at Fatima in 1917.


11 posted on 03/02/2022 1:24:12 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: livius

I heard that it was not true that Putin requested this.


12 posted on 03/02/2022 1:49:48 PM PST by piusv (Francis didn't start the Fire)
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To: piusv

I read a Spanish language “Church gossip” summary every day - the author is a Spaniard in deep cover, so to speak, at the Vatican and has been there for years. The authorities are always trying to find out who he is. He’s obviously a Vatican employee of some sort (I don’t think he’s a priest, but I could be wrong) and he has incredible insider information. So in any case, he described the event and the reaction of Bergoglio, and while I don’t think he was present himself,, he probably got it from someone who was…so I think it probably did happen.

This current Pope has upset the Orthodox, or at least the Russians, with his heterodoxy. I guess by now everybody should know better than to ask Bergoglio to do something religious.


13 posted on 03/02/2022 6:19:00 PM PST by livius
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To: GonzoII

If he consecrates anything it will be to his Pachamama.


14 posted on 03/02/2022 6:34:39 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: livius
So in any case, he described the event and the reaction of Bergoglio, and while I don’t think he was present himself, he probably got it from someone who was…so I think it probably did happen.

This makes me think it's more likely it isn't true. It sounds more like gossip.

It makes no sense for the leader of Russia, a Orthodox, to request a consecration based on a Catholic-approved apparition that spoke poorly of Russia.

I tend not to believe a lot of what is "reported" these days.

15 posted on 03/03/2022 2:44:11 AM PST by piusv (Francis didn't start the Fire)
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Related: Bishops Ask Pope Francis to Consecrate Ukraine and Russia to Immaculate Heart of Mary
16 posted on 03/04/2022 4:29:19 AM PST by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen )
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To: piusv

Benedict had made a very good impression on the Orthodox leaders. Bergoglio is heterodox and they don’t like him for that reason (with the exception of the eco-freak elderly Patriarch of Constantinople, head of the Greek Orthodox Church).

I think Putin was just a jump back and didn’t realize that things had changed in Rome from the times of Benedict.

Also, Our Lady was talking about Communism, not about Russia as a country or people.

Bergoglio knew that, however, and he’s very pro-Marxist, so there was no way he would carry out Our Lady’s request.


17 posted on 03/04/2022 4:32:41 PM PST by livius
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