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German Bishops Chairman: Gay Sex Does Not Harm ‘One’s Relationship with God’
Cybernistas ^ | March 6, 2022 | Newsman

Posted on 03/06/2022 2:19:57 PM PST by ebb tide

German Bishops Chairman: Gay Sex Does Not Harm ‘One’s Relationship with God’

ROME — The Chairman of the German Catholic Bishops’ Conference, Bishop Georg Bätzing, has urged the Catholic Church to change its teaching on sexual morality, insisting that gay sex does not harm a person’s relationship with God.

Same-sex relations are okay, Bishop Bätzing told the German magazine Bunte in its March 4 issue, “as long as they are carried out with loyalty and responsibility.”

“It doesn’t affect one’s relationship with God,” the bishop added.

Bätzing went on to say that how a person lives their personal intimacy “is none of my business.”

In the interview, the Limburg bishop asserted that no one follows Church teaching on sexuality anymore — which only allows sex in marriage — and therefore “we have to partially change the catechism. Sexuality is a gift from God. It’s not a sin.”

Last year Bishop Bätzing made headlines when he publicly opposed a Vatican declaration forbidding the blessing of same-sex couples.

“I believe that we have to assess homosexuality and lived partnerships outside of marriage differently,” said Bätzing at the time. “We can no longer proceed solely from natural law, but have to think much more in terms of care and personal responsibility for one another.”

“In this regard, I would like to see a further development of Catholic teaching on sexual ethics,” the bishop said.

Bätzing said that people in homosexual relationships want the blessing of the Church, and the Church must “address this desire.”

“We can no longer answer these questions simply with a ‘yes’ or ‘no.’ That is not possible,” he said.

“I understand the negative opinion of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, it reflects the state of Church teaching,” he said. “But that doesn’t help, because there has long been a pastoral development that goes beyond that.”

“And that means change is coming,” he declared.

In March 2021, the Vatican’s doctrinal office (CDF) issued a statement declaring that the Church has no authority to bless homosexual unions, noting that God Himself “does not and cannot bless sin.”

Blessings require both “the right intention of those who participate” and “that what is blessed be objectively and positively ordered to receive and express grace, according to the designs of God inscribed in creation,” stated the text, published with the express approval of Pope Francis.

“For this reason, it is not licit to impart a blessing on relationships, or partnerships, even stable, that involve sexual activity outside of marriage,” it read, “as is the case of the unions between persons of the same sex.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: batcrazy; batzing; degenerate; francisbishop; georgbatzing; heretic; homofascism; homopriest; homos; homosexualagenda; samesexmirage; sodomite
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1 posted on 03/06/2022 2:19:57 PM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 03/06/2022 2:21:10 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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3 posted on 03/06/2022 2:25:12 PM PST by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: ebb tide

Gods covenant has both blessings and curses.

Most eyes just want to see the blessings.


4 posted on 03/06/2022 2:30:48 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: BenLurkin
" “as long as they are carried out with loyalty and responsibility.” “It doesn’t affect one’s relationship with God,” the bishop added."

It certainly does:God made man and women distinctively different yet uniquely compatible and complementary, and only joined them together in marriage - as the Lord Jesus Himself specified (Mt. 19:4–6) - and Scripture only condemns homosexual relations wherever they are manifestly dealt with.

And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life. (Revelation 21:27)

For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. (Revelation 22:15)

And it most typically presently results in more problems:

Yet there is still room at the cross for all who will come to God in repentance and faith, and trust in the Divine Son of God sent by the Father, the risen Lord Jesus, to save them on His account, by His sinless shed blood, and thus be baptized and live for Him. Acts 10:36-47

5 posted on 03/06/2022 2:34:46 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: ebb tide

Time for repentance by these fools, and some serious Bible time. God does not appreciate being mocked.


6 posted on 03/06/2022 2:37:12 PM PST by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: ebb tide
"Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil men and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.--2 timothy 3
7 posted on 03/06/2022 2:39:56 PM PST by avenir (Information overload = Pattern recognition)
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To: ebb tide

My guess is that gays make up over 50% of the Catholic clergy now, so don’t be surprised at this shift. And don’t be surprised that something like this could occur when you require a vow of celibacy. Not a Catholic hater, I was raised one myself, just saying.


8 posted on 03/06/2022 2:44:43 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: ebb tide

Gay Sex Does Not Harm ‘One’s Relationship with God. The hell it doesn’t. Sin is sin and it hurts God! These homosexual perverts are trying to distort all truth to allow them to practice their perversion out in the open with nobody objecting. Remember that another German (Martin Luther) led the people astray years ago. Now we have queer Bishops trying to do the same thing. Do not buy it! It is crap!


9 posted on 03/06/2022 2:45:51 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: ebb tide

In March 2021, the Vatican’s doctrinal office (CDF) issued a statement declaring that the Church has no authority to bless homosexual unions, noting that God Himself “does not and cannot bless sin.”


I find the wordage interesting. Lots of wiggle room?

In this case the Church has no authority. yet authority is claimed in many other situations. IT is deflection language, implying, that we really want to but it is that nasty God that stops us.

But, remember this has gone through how many journalists and editors.


10 posted on 03/06/2022 2:45:56 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: ebb tide

Such people would probably have no relationship with God in the first place so you can’t really harm it.


11 posted on 03/06/2022 2:47:30 PM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: bramps

Exactly.


12 posted on 03/06/2022 2:49:35 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: ebb tide
Leviticus 18:22

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Enough said.

13 posted on 03/06/2022 2:51:26 PM PST by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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To: ebb tide

Because he has no relationship with God.


14 posted on 03/06/2022 2:54:15 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: ebb tide

A bishop teaching heresy certainly destroys his relationship with God. See Dante.


15 posted on 03/06/2022 2:57:58 PM PST by I-ambush (We watched the moment of defeat, played back over on the video screen. )
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To: ebb tide

It sure did the folks living in Sodom and Gomorrah. Maybe the author should review that account and then think things through again.


16 posted on 03/06/2022 2:58:01 PM PST by GingisK
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
Remember that another German (Martin Luther) led the people astray years ago.

Incorrecto: He led them to Christ. That is something the Catholic Church wasn't taking much of an interest in in those days.

17 posted on 03/06/2022 3:00:00 PM PST by GingisK
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To: ebb tide

Does the Bible call it a sin?

Then it does affect your relationship with God.

I say this while knowing I am a sinner and that my sins affect my relationship with God.


18 posted on 03/06/2022 3:00:44 PM PST by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: Tudorfly

The progressive German screw-up on theology predates WW1.


19 posted on 03/06/2022 3:00:48 PM PST by EliRoom8
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To: ebb tide

Clearly, he is leading people astray. The consequences for doing so is quite severe.


20 posted on 03/06/2022 3:02:32 PM PST by robel
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