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Pope Francis says Abu Dhabi document ‘came from God’ and you ‘can’t understand it otherwise’
LifeSite News ^ | November 7, 2022 | Andreas Wailzer

Posted on 11/07/2022 11:04:31 AM PST by ebb tide

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To: Glad2bnuts

Yes.

The WHOLE thing.


41 posted on 11/07/2022 5:35:09 PM PST by Ken Regis
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To: Ken Regis

It’s like the man who hired people in the morning, at noon, and late in the day, and then paid them each for a full day. He kept his promise to the morning workers, right?

So God would keep His promises to those who follow the path He revealed, but as for the rest, He can do as He chooses, right?


42 posted on 11/07/2022 6:53:06 PM PST by Chicory
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To: ebb tide
Your cult will never prevail...
You made your choice...
Get your own Pope or superior and be on your way ...

The One True Church will be just fine... after decades of battle...


43 posted on 11/07/2022 7:26:18 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." )
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To: Glad2bnuts
Yeah...
And how's that working out for ya?


44 posted on 11/07/2022 7:28:09 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." )
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To: MurphsLaw

You’re pope is Boobie Barron. You never criticize him, you pimp his trash yet you trash Bergoglio.

Frankly, I don’t see much of difference between the two homosexualists; so I find your obsession with Barron to be disturbing.


45 posted on 11/07/2022 7:39:37 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide
And you belong to a Catholuc Church hating group - born out of post war anti-semites
Who hate the Jews,
and yet you give a phony concern for Jewish Ben Shapiro's salvation...

So yeah... tell me again about what you find disturbing...


46 posted on 11/07/2022 7:52:11 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." )
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To: MurphsLaw

You’re making stuff up now, Murph.

But you’ve never been one to obey the Eighth Commandment; just like Bergoglio.


47 posted on 11/07/2022 7:57:29 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: MurphsLaw

“Catholuc”

Been tipping the bottle tonight? Or just another fit of rage?


48 posted on 11/07/2022 8:02:47 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: MurphsLaw
and yet you give a phony concern for Jewish Ben Shapiro's salvation...

As a faithful catholic who believes in the dogma of "extra Ecclesia nulla salus", I most certainly have more concern about Shapiro's salvation than you, Barron or Bergoglio.

49 posted on 11/07/2022 8:35:20 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Chicory

No.
and
No.

It’s like this:
Learn to properly interpret God’s Word.


50 posted on 11/07/2022 9:09:06 PM PST by Ken Regis
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To: Ken Regis

Just out of curiosity, how can you tell a proper interpretation from an improper one?


52 posted on 11/08/2022 4:15:08 AM PST by Chicory
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To: ebb tide
I most certainly have more concern about Shapiro's salvation than you, Barron or Bergoglio.

Oh really...
That is good to know...
How ecumenically Vatican 2 of you as well.. well done I say !
Though... Better not let yer schismatic buddies see that !


53 posted on 11/08/2022 2:11:55 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." )
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To: ebb tide
You’re making stuff up now,

Well... where would you like me to start???

Would you like to talk about these French bishops Nazi collaboration
and acquiescence with the traitorous Vichy government during WW2...?

You think that was a good place to start...?


54 posted on 11/08/2022 2:17:32 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." )
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To: MurphsLaw

I’m sure you’d love to attack the pre-conciliar Catholic Church.

You modernists hate it so much. Anything to make yourselves look sanctimonious in the secular world. Go along with your secular “church” with it’s heretical Sin-Nods, pandering to homos, adulterers, transgenders, etc.


55 posted on 11/08/2022 2:53:49 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: MurphsLaw
How ecumenically Vatican 2 of you as well.. well done I say !

Oh, how your modernists adore VC II as if was the birth-mother of your modernist "church".

Quite amusing! Did you participate in Bergoglio's Sin-Nod?

Are you a wanna-be priestess?

56 posted on 11/08/2022 3:23:23 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: Chicory

Hermeneutics

Learn how to study the Bible.

I’ve copied the following from GotQuestions:

The most important law of biblical hermeneutics is that the Bible should be interpreted literally. We are to understand the Bible in its normal or plain meaning, unless the passage is obviously intended to be symbolic or if figures of speech are employed. The Bible says what it means and means what it says. For example, when Jesus speaks of having fed “the five thousand” in Mark 8:19, the law of hermeneutics says we should understand five thousand literally—there was a crowd of hungry people that numbered five thousand who were fed with real bread and fish by a miracle-working Savior. Any attempt to “spiritualize” the number or to deny a literal miracle is to do injustice to the text and ignore the purpose of language, which is to communicate. Some interpreters make the mistake of trying to read between the lines of Scripture to come up with esoteric meanings that are not truly in the text, as if every passage has a hidden spiritual truth that we should seek to decrypt. Biblical hermeneutics keeps us faithful to the intended meaning of Scripture and away from allegorizing Bible verses that should be understood literally.

A second crucial law of biblical hermeneutics is that passages must be interpreted historically, grammatically, and contextually. Interpreting a passage historically means we must seek to understand the culture, background, and situation that prompted the text. For example, in order to fully understand Jonah’s flight in Jonah 1:1–3, we should research the history of the Assyrians as related to Israel. Interpreting a passage grammatically requires one to follow the rules of grammar and recognize the nuances of Hebrew and Greek. For example, when Paul writes of “our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ” in Titus 2:13, the rules of grammar state that God and Savior are parallel terms and they are both in apposition to Jesus Christ—in other words, Paul clearly calls Jesus “our great God.” Interpreting a passage contextually involves considering the context of a verse or passage when trying to determine the meaning. The context includes the verses immediately preceding and following, the chapter, the book, and, most broadly, the entire Bible. For example, many puzzling statements in Ecclesiastes become clearer when kept in context—the book of Ecclesiastes is written from the earthly perspective “under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 1:3). In fact, the phrase under the sun is repeated about thirty times in the book, establishing the context for all that is “vanity” in this world.

A third law of biblical hermeneutics is that Scripture is always the best interpreter of Scripture. For this reason, we always compare Scripture with Scripture when trying to determine the meaning of a passage. For example, Isaiah’s condemnation of Judah’s desire to seek Egypt’s help and their reliance on a strong cavalry (Isaiah 31:1) was motivated, in part, by God’s explicit command that His people not go to Egypt to seek horses (Deuteronomy 17:16).

Some people avoid studying biblical hermeneutics because they mistakenly believe it will limit their ability to learn new truths from God’s Word or stifle the Holy Spirit’s illumination of Scripture. But their fears are unfounded. Biblical hermeneutics is all about finding the correct interpretation of the inspired text. The purpose of biblical hermeneutics is to protect us from misapplying Scripture or allowing bias to color our understanding of truth. God’s Word is truth (John 17:17). We want to see the truth, know the truth, and live the truth as best we can, and that’s why biblical hermeneutics is vital.
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Finally, don’t be led around by losers and liars.


57 posted on 11/08/2022 7:32:38 PM PST by Ken Regis
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To: ebb tide
I’m sure you’d love to attack the pre-conciliar Catholic Church.

NO !
NO !
NO !

A CATHOLIC DOES NOT ATTCK THE CHURCH EVER !
(Unless the plan to leave... see Luther)
Pre... OR Post-conciliar.... never...
THAT IS SATAN'S JOB !!!!

THOSE WHO ATTACK THE CHURCH - at any time - ARE IN LEAGUE WITH THE DEVIL...!!!!


Thats why modern-day Lutherite schismatics who love to attack the Church-
to point out its flaws and sins - continuously to cast doubt on Christ's Church
Are never on the side of God's will.

Yes, those who fall into this category offer constant, daily disrespectful steady and daily stream of scandal and flawed clergy on display of the human error in the Church... Pure snfulness that God will judge in the end- NOT the laity...
And evil consumes evil...
Attacking the Church leads one down a dark hole from which there is no escape...

No you DO NOT ATTTACK the Church ever !!

You can disagree- disapprove - but in order to avoid the oft mentioned Extra Eccelesiam... qualification
you must submit to the Papal authority... how difficult that may be...
regardless how neo-marxist that may be.
(And pray for God's grace to be able to endure it.)

Attack the Church?
Pre-conciliar or otherwise... NO !!!!!!!!!
AbSOLUTELY NO ! NOT OUR PLACE...

That's reserved for those outside the Church.


58 posted on 11/09/2022 7:32:24 AM PST by MurphsLaw ("Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." )
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To: MurphsLaw
A CATHOLIC DOES NOT ATTCK THE CHURCH EVER !
(Unless the plan to leave... see Luther)
Pre... OR Post-conciliar.... never...
THAT IS SATAN'S JOB !!!!

Are you serious, Murph?

You modernists have been attacking the Catholic Church for over 100 years.

It was only after VCII that they have come out in the open and now we have Bergoglio, the ultimate modernist who hates everything about the pre-conciliar Church: the Mass, the Sacraments, the Commandments, etc. He's y'all's posterboy.

59 posted on 11/09/2022 10:56:12 AM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: MurphsLaw
Thats why modern-day Lutherite schismatics who love to attack the Church-
to point out its flaws and sins - continuously to cast doubt on Christ's Church

That's where you modernists went off the tracks.

The Catholic Church, is the Immaculate Bride of Christ. She has no flaws; She has no sins.

It's men who have flaw and sins; men like Bergoglio, Barron, John XXIII, Paul VI, McCarrick, McElroy, Tobin, Gregory.

I repeat the Catholic Church is the Immaculate Bride of Christ. She has no flaws or sins.

60 posted on 11/09/2022 12:01:14 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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