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I don't always agree with Pope Francis, but I do agree with what he said in this discussion about the causes of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Without naming NATO, he placed the blame on the war with the Western alliance.
1 posted on 12/14/2022 6:29:39 AM PST by rod5591
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To: rod5591

>> What is happening to humanity that has had three world wars in a century? <<

Oh FFS, Frankie, WWI was 104 years ago.


2 posted on 12/14/2022 6:31:06 AM PST by dangus
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To: rod5591

Too bad that in spite of Biden’s war on Christianity, Pope Francis again and again and again attacked the man who treated Russia as something other than a prop for a Kabuki theater.


3 posted on 12/14/2022 6:32:37 AM PST by dangus
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To: rod5591
he placed the blame on the war with the Western alliance.

How ‘woke’ of him. After all, western culture is the most evil ever in world history. We should all just euthanize ourselves.

Stick to religion, jackass. You’ve got enough problems with your own pedo clergy.

4 posted on 12/14/2022 6:34:47 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: rod5591
"I don't always agree with Pope Francis, but I do agree with what he said in this discussion about the causes of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Without naming NATO, he placed the blame on the war with the Western alliance."

Not hardly.

"Regarding criticism that he was somehow siding with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Francis said it was ”simplistic and wrong to say such a thing; but I am simply against reducing complexity to the distinction between good and evil, without thinking about the roots and interests, which are very complex.“

”What we have before our eyes is a situation of world war, of global interests, of arms sales and geopolitical appropriation, which is martyring a heroic people,“ the Pope said about Ukrainians.

”It is also true that the Russians thought it would all be over in a week. But they miscalculated. They encountered a courageous people, a people who are struggling to survive and who have a history of struggle,“ he added... “The brutality and ferocity with which this war is being waged by troops, usually mercenaries sent by the Russians, which is "something monstrous."


6 posted on 12/14/2022 6:35:40 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: rod5591

“Perhaps Russia’s invasion of Ukraine “was provoked or not prevented,” the Argentine-born pontiff was also quoted as saying.”

If the Pope is opening up the discussion to look at the rut of the problem, it tells me that the Neocons didn’t get to pre-screen his speech.

I suspect the Neocons have told the Pope that he broke the rules here and to NOT do that again.


7 posted on 12/14/2022 6:36:02 AM PST by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 11 degrees, brrrr!)
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To: rod5591

“the wolf was bad”.

Is he denying Satan?


9 posted on 12/14/2022 6:44:22 AM PST by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: rod5591
someone who did not understand that “Russians are imperial and they don't allow any foreign power to come near them.”

What Empire or Great Power does?

The USA has this thing called the "Monroe Doctrine," for example.

And meanwhile, neocons and grifters from Clinton to Bush to McCain scheme to pull places like Ukraine into their military/economic/political control

10 posted on 12/14/2022 6:47:48 AM PST by PGR88
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Central bankers gone Globalist.

CCP to control world’s sweatshop labor.
CCP to acquire land to feed its labor.
WEF to implement vaccine passports.
WEF to oversee eugenic depopulation.

Russia refuses to comply.
WWIII plausible and Biblical.


11 posted on 12/14/2022 6:49:13 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: rod5591
Russia's invasion of Ukraine “was provoked or not prevented,”

He's right

12 posted on 12/14/2022 6:51:31 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: rod5591

The globalists needed this war. Russia and Ukraine were fervent nation states opposed to the new world fascist order run by elites. The war is accomplishing what the globalists had hoped. Both Russia and Ukraine have become weakened and transformed into pliable cogs of the new world order. America remains the big target. Biden and his cabal are doing all they can to destroy the American nation.


13 posted on 12/14/2022 6:53:44 AM PST by allendale
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To: rod5591

Amazing what stealing a Presidential election from a ‘stop the endless wars’ President, can do to start up the ‘endless wars’..


14 posted on 12/14/2022 7:00:20 AM PST by delchiante
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To: rod5591

You know, it’s okay is a regional war remains a regional war.


15 posted on 12/14/2022 7:01:15 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: rod5591

I don’t think the Pope is the AntiChrist (I could be wrong), but I’m sure they are good friends.


16 posted on 12/14/2022 7:10:01 AM PST by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, RINOs, Islamonazis, Marxists, Commucrats, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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To: rod5591

Which side of the war is the Pope on?


17 posted on 12/14/2022 7:16:24 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: rod5591
Francis is a Marxist robot. A programmed zombie. He seems to have given up the need for independent thought.

As Jordan Peterson and Carl Jung have both said, "people don't have ideas, ideas have people."

The Pope is possessed by an idea.

18 posted on 12/14/2022 7:27:32 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: rod5591

“We have to move away from the normal pattern that Little Red Riding Hood was good and the wolf was bad”

I never did trust her.


19 posted on 12/14/2022 7:54:34 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: rod5591

20 posted on 12/14/2022 8:38:11 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Keflavik76
Some folks just never learn, ey?

God said that He'd destroy the wisdom of the wise.

I know that the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the memes cover the sea.

Looks like a joke, doesn't it? Nothing to see here, nope.

Matthew 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

I tried to warn.

22 posted on 12/14/2022 12:24:49 PM PST by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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