Posted on 02/14/2023 3:09:20 PM PST by ebb tide
A U.S. cardinal has called for the language of “intrinsically disordered” to be removed from the Catechism. His comment followed the publication of an article in which he sought a better, wider welcome for LGBTQ+ people in the church.*
Cardinal Robert McElroy of San Diego made his comments about church teaching on homosexuality during an interview with the podcast Jesuitical, which is produced by America Media. Asked how he would approach the question of LGBTQ+ inclusion, specifically when the language used is considered harmful by many people, the cardinal responded:
“I’ve said for some years I felt, and others have too, that the intrinsically disordered language is a disservice. The problem is, it’s used in the catechism as a philosophical term, but to us in our country and really most of the world, disorder is thought of as psychological. It’s a terrible word and it should be taken out of the catechism. On the question of the distinction between activity and orientation, the point I was trying to make in the article was God’s embrace of L.G.B.T. people, like the church’s embrace, should [not] be [based on] whether they’re [sexually] active or not; that should not determine whether we seek to include people, reach out to them, look on them as fellow strivers with strengths and weaknesses and areas where they’re doing well.”
McElroy continued by saying that differentiating between activity and orientation matters, but “shouldn’t be the foundation for how we approach L.G.B.T. people.” He concluded:
“My pastoral vision here in San Diego is to make—and it’s hard to accomplish this—to make L.G.B.T. people feel equally welcome in the life of the church as everyone else. And so how we get from here to there—it’s hard and we take steps. But that’s my goal. And I really feel that Christ would totally agree with that. That he would want every person, every L.G.B.T. person and their families, to feel equally welcomed in the church.”
More broadly in the interview, the cardinal expressed concern that the church had focused too severely on questions of sexuality, an outgrowth of the 16th century notion that “all sexual sins are mortal” which he was “challenging in the essay.” He also added that instead “judgmentalism is the worst sin in the Christian life.”
—Robert Shine (he/him), New Ways Ministry, February 13, 2023
*Cardinal McElroy’s interview appeared soon after he published an essay in America about radical inclusion for LGBTQ+ people and others marginalized in the church. Tomorrow, Bondings 2.0 will cover insights from the cardinal’s essay that complement his podcast comments.
Barf Alert Ping
Mc shut down 2 out of his diocese’s 3 Latin Masses, so making *everyone* feel welcome isn’t his actual priority... just his boys.
Romans 1:
21 for though they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools; 23 and they exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling a mortal human being or birds or four-footed animals or reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the degrading of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind and to things that should not be done. 29 They were filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, covetousness, malice. Full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, craftiness, they are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, rebellious toward parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 They know God’s decree, that those who practice such things deserve to die—yet they not only do them but even applaud others who practice them.
If I remember correctly, God said that you can love the sinner but not the sin and that when you accept Him into your heart, you are to give up that sin. Am I wrong?
Bergoglio is an anti-Pope at the very minimum.
If I remember correctly, God said that you can love the sinner but not the sin
A few thoughts:
1) That is not a Bible verse although ................
https://www.openbible.info/topics/hate_the_sin_love_the_sinner
Study ALL verses for the total flaver, not just that statement.
2) For many, like homosexuals, THEY ARE THE SIN, so when you hate the sin, you hate them.
If I remember correctly, God said that you can love the sinner but not the sin
A few thoughts:
1) That is not a Bible verse although ................
https://www.openbible.info/topics/hate_the_sin_love_the_sinner
Study ALL verses for the total flaver, not just that statement.
2) For many, like homosexuals, THEY ARE THE SIN, so when you hate the sin, you hate them.
How did I immediately know it was McElroy upon glancing at the headline?
I just shake my head at this point and pray for God to deliver us from this evil.
New Ways Ministry are notorious militant faggots.
Yes. And so are the Jesuits and their America Magazine.
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