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Fallen Men Playing At Being God: Are You Ready To Be ‘Upgraded’ To Humanity 2.0?
PatriotandLiberty Blog ^ | 2/17/23 | Leo Hohmann

Posted on 02/17/2023 1:51:18 AM PST by spirited irish

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To: RoosterRedux

I didn’t post this, I merely pointed out that you are more concerned about the “pimping” than the contents. Yes, you posted the entire article-FYI-I can do the work on research and am not worried about making it easier. Your threats sound like an old commander I had. He ruled by fear and intimidation. Never worked, people saw through it. Leave me out of your copyright argument. You can include me if you have anything further to say about your “priorities”. Cheers.


41 posted on 02/17/2023 9:35:13 AM PST by GMThrust
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To: GMThrust
If you see someone breaking into someone's car, do you feel inclined to call the police or to do something--anything--to stop the crime.

I care about this subject matter and am pretty familiar with it.

But I was shocked when I saw that the OP of this thread had taken an article from an author I am quite familiar with (Leo Hohmann) and put it in his blog in its entirety. He wasn't even courteous enough to link to Leo's site.

And then pimped his blog with a stolen article to Free Republic.

I don't know about you, but that is disgusting.

You chastised me for bringing this matter to light. And that is your privilege.

As I told the poster in question, show me where I am wrong about this theft of material and blog pimping and I would be pleased to apologize.

Is that fear and intimidation?

I even offered some very real advice as to how the blog pimp in question could remedy the situation (by following the law).

42 posted on 02/17/2023 9:50:48 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
Only in your imagination is there a 'situation.' Had you looked closely at Leo Hohmann's website you would see him say, "SHARE MY WORK - EDUCATION IS POWER! ."

Nowhere does he require permission to share his work. Thus his work is shared on P&L with full and proper attribution as is right and correct and you are guilty of slandering the owner of P&L.

The owner is an author who for over 21 years has been writing and researching. Her works are published online on many blogs and websites, nationally and internationally. Like Hohmann and other writers she writes that her work may be shared as long as proper attribution is followed.

You have accused me of theft, plagiarism, and of being a blog-pimp. You are a shameless self-righteous scold who assumes the worst without knowing a bit of truth and then proceeds to blacken good names based on nothing more than baseless presumption. Do not post to me again.

43 posted on 02/17/2023 10:44:09 AM PST by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish
No one likes a thief (particularly a thief that pretends to be religious--shame on you). And if you don't own this blog, you are still enabling a thief.

When someone says share my work, they mean "share" the work using Fair Use Laws (something you seem to know nothing about). They don't mean "steal my work and use it to pimp your pathetic blog."

I even offered to apologize if you could prove me wrong. I see you weren't a big enough person to bother with that.

BTW, I will post to you any time I please.

And one more thing. Raymond Ibrahim's work--also stolen by the blog you pimp--is copyrighted. Does he also want you to share his work.

What a religious hypocrite you are! Thief and liar.

44 posted on 02/17/2023 11:38:54 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
Oh silly ignorant one, my own work is copyrighted. This @ before a name means copyrighted.

Though some writers require permission, many blog and website owners do not. Raymond Ibrahim does not. Leo Hohmann does not. The owner, author of P&L does not which is why American Thinker and other blogs, websites have shared her work. All writers who do not require permission are pleased to share with proper attribution. On every shared article on P&L you will find proper attribution. But you Obviously Did Not Know Any of This so you just shot off your ugly mouth

BTW, you said you post articles on FR--have you written for permission or is that something you accuse others of not doing?

The point I'm making is that no plagiarism, no theft, no blog pimping, no Wrong Doing occurred except in your presumptuous imagination.

And now, I'm really done with you.

45 posted on 02/17/2023 1:47:06 PM PST by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish
I do apologize for any misunderstandings on my part. Things seem to have gotten out of control and I'm sure much of that was my fault. I got unnecessarily irritated.

I am sensitive to writers having their material used without permission by blogs and plagiarized by others. I have personally experienced that.

I don't think that was the intention here, but as I said above, things escalated and I went along with the escalation. Sorry again.

As an aside, it is de rigueur for bloggers to excerpt material written by others and provide live links to their sites. That is in accordance with Fair Use Laws.

I clicked on your link because I saw Leo Hohmann's name and I thought this was a link to a new online magazine/site for which he was now writing. I have read his work for years and am a fan. I was shocked to find that it wasn't and that there was no live link to his source.

For what it's worth, it is the end of the week of a very stressful week for me and I hate to end it on a bad note by leaving this matter with you unresolved.

Again, I am sorry.

46 posted on 02/17/2023 2:27:44 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
BTW, if you are wondering why the change of tune on my part...I prayed on it.
47 posted on 02/17/2023 3:17:22 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

You are forgiven.


48 posted on 02/18/2023 2:07:27 AM PST by spirited irish ( )
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