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[Catholic Caucus] Fr. James Martin on homosexuality: ‘Christians shouldn’t do everything’ the Bible ‘commands’
LifeSite News ^ | April 21, 2023 | Emily Mangiaracina

Posted on 04/22/2023 9:41:12 AM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Fr. James Martin on homosexuality: ‘Christians shouldn’t do everything’ the Bible ‘commands’

The heretical Jesuit priest has issued an outreach 'guide' on homosexuality that only serves to ignore and obscure Scripture.

Dissident Jesuit priest Father James Martin has claimed Christians “shouldn’t do everything” the Bible “commands” in his new “Outreach Guide to the Bible and Homosexuality.”

Martin attempts to show how an explicit defense of homosexual behavior can be reconciled with Christianity in his “guide,” citing biblical scholars who allegedly help interpret Biblical passages on homosexuality. However, the advice of Martin as well as the scholars boils down to this: Even Christians can ignore Scriptural prohibitions on homosexual behavior.

Martin laments that such biblical verses “are used against LGBTQ people over and over,” and goes on to advise that “one response” to these verses “is to see them in their historical context and remember that even devout Christians shouldn’t do everything that [the] Old Testament commands. Likewise for the Epistles in the New Testament.”

His selective rejection of New Testament Scripture passages is at odds with the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC), according to which the authors of Scripture are inspired by the Holy Ghost, and thus, “we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures.”

Martin’s rejection of Scriptural passages condemning homosexual behavior also appears inconsistent with his suggestion that what the Bible has to say on homosexuality matters. In his introduction to his guide, he writes, “The questions, though, remain: How can we best understand what the Bible says on homosexuality? What did these passages mean then and what do they mean today?

The writers the dissident Jesuit cites do little to clarify the question. Walter Brueggemann, who Martin refers to as a “giant in the field of biblical scholarship,” claims that St. Paul’s intention in his passage condemning homosexuality is “not fully clear.”

St. Paul writes: “For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Rom. 1:23-27)

Brueggemann then concedes that “it is impossible to explain away” this text as well as a clear prohibition on homosexuality in Leviticus (“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination” (Lev. 18:22).

The scholar suggests that because Scripture expresses God’s welcome, in an apparent self-contradiction, to those who don’t keep “purity codes” (in this case, eunuchs, who are forbidden from the community of God according to Deuteronomy 23:1), that those who don’t abstain from homosexual behavior are likewise considered part of God’s covenant family, as if the moral law were equivalent to temporary Jewish ceremonial law.

Brueggemann fails to address this distinction between moral and ceremonial law, whereas Catholic apologist Trent Horn has pointed out that homosexual acts fall squarely within the moral domain, considering that their penalty under the Old Testament is death, something only assigned to sins like idolatry, murder, and adultery, not to the violation of ceremonial laws. Horn has also noted that mention of homosexual sin is “sandwiched between moral laws and not ceremonial ones.”

The very passage Brueggemann cites, in fact, indicates that eunuchs can be considered part of God’s family if they “hold fast” to His covenant, which means keeping God’s moral law and avoiding serious sin: “For thus says the Lord: To the eunuchs who keep my sabbaths, who choose the things that please me and hold fast my covenant, I will give, in my house and within my walls, a monument and a name better than sons and daughters.” (Isaiah 56:4-5)

Brueggemann ambiguously concludes that “the full acceptance and embrace of LGBTQ persons follows as a clear mandate of the Gospel in our time.” It is true that, according to the CCC, that those with same-sex attraction “must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity.” However, it also affirms that “homosexual acts … are contrary to the natural law, that “they close the sexual act to the gift of life,” and that “under no circumstances can they be approved.”

None of the other scholars cited by Martin can refute Scripture’s clear prohibition on homosexual acts, but instead claim there may be loopholes, or, like Brueggemann, they suggest that because we are called to “welcome all,” active homosexuals must be included in the Body of Christ as well.

Fr. Martin is notorious for his open and heretical promotion of homosexual lifestyles and his celebration of homosexuality as a great “gift” for the Church. His tweets stating the homosexual Pete Buttigieg was “married” drew strong condemnation from numerous bishops and priests, with a Spanish priest denouncing him for “speaking out on social media in a scandalous way against the Catholic faith.”

Martin has a longstanding record of promoting LGBT ideology in dissent from Catholic teaching. Among his most notorious actions, Martin has promoted an image drawn from a series of blasphemous, homoerotic works, showing Christ as a homosexual, promoted same-sex civil unions, and has described viewing God as male as “damaging.”



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: frankenchurch; frankenjesuits; homos; jamesmartinsj

1 posted on 04/22/2023 9:41:12 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

Ping


2 posted on 04/22/2023 9:41:52 AM PDT by ebb tide (The pope ... said the church’s “catechesis on sex is still in diapers.”)
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To: ebb tide

“[Catholic Caucus] Fr. James Martin on homosexuality: ‘Christians shouldn’t do everything’ the Bible ‘commands’”

Satan on homosexuality: ‘Christians shouldn’t do everything’ the Bible ‘commands’

There, foxed it


3 posted on 04/22/2023 9:44:21 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: ebb tide
Went to see the movie, "Nefarious," last night. IMHO, CS Lewis would appreciate the comparisons it had been receiving to, "Screwtape Letters."

The writers not so subtly named the skeptical atheist psychologist, "James Martin."

4 posted on 04/22/2023 9:44:52 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: ebb tide
How can we best understand what the Bible says on homosexuality? What did these passages mean then and what do they mean today? Got it???
5 posted on 04/22/2023 9:45:12 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ebb tide

It’s in the Book. That’s the way it will be.


6 posted on 04/22/2023 9:46:17 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: ebb tide
How can we best understand what the Bible says on homosexuality? What did these passages mean then and what do they mean today?

It means sodomy is an abomination and a mortal sin. Got it???

7 posted on 04/22/2023 9:47:27 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I look forward to seeing it once it’s released in a physical format or available streaming.


8 posted on 04/22/2023 9:50:50 AM PDT by grimalkin (Communism is the final logic of the dehumanization of man. -Fulton J. Sheen)
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To: ebb tide

Hooray! Finally, we get to pick and choose what we want to do with this guy’s blessing. Goodbye Ten Commandments, hello DNC.


9 posted on 04/22/2023 9:51:32 AM PDT by DPMD (ua)
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To: ebb tide

APOSTASY!


10 posted on 04/22/2023 10:01:02 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: grimalkin
As noted it's received a lot of comparisons to, "Screwtape Letters," and from a theological/philosophical standpoint, rightfully so. From a cinematic view, it reminded me a little of Hitchcock's "Rope," with the vast majority of the plot playing out with just two people in one room.

Sean Patrick Flanery's acting is beyond Oscar-worthy, but won't get a look. There's no vulgarity or gore ***SPOILER ALERT*** save for one scene where the demon breaks his host's finger and a pretty graphic depiction of his electrocution***END SPOILER ALERT****

The evil of Flanery's, "Nefarious," is not generated through CGI, profanity etc., but through an intensely malevolent psychological and intellectual assault which makes Anthony Hopkins' Hannibal Lecter seem like not such a bad guy after all.

11 posted on 04/22/2023 10:04:57 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: ebb tide

One can love the dinner and hate the sin


12 posted on 04/22/2023 10:05:29 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Joe 6-pack

Thank you. Sounds right up my alley. I’m not a gore or swearing fan for the most part, but I like a well-written and acted movie. I just purchased the book it’s based on and look forward to reading it. Wasn’t Flanery in the Young Indiana Jones TV series from way back?


13 posted on 04/22/2023 10:14:45 AM PDT by grimalkin (Communism is the final logic of the dehumanization of man. -Fulton J. Sheen)
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To: Nifster

Hating the sin the sinner does is actually loving the sinner.


14 posted on 04/22/2023 10:25:17 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: grimalkin

Yes, that was him in Young Indiana Jones


15 posted on 04/22/2023 10:47:46 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: ebb tide

As the Creator of everything, God sets the rules. As people always have free will, they can choose to follow the rules and gain spiritual advancement and happiness, or ignore them to their detriment.


16 posted on 04/22/2023 10:48:44 AM PDT by JPG (MAGA)
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To: ebb tide

I don’t know, seems like when we don’t do as the Bible commands we end up getting the society that we are now in the process of getting…


17 posted on 04/22/2023 10:54:08 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: ebb tide
You can argue that Christians are not obligated to keep the 613 laws/commands in the Old Testament. When it comes to doctrine found in the New Testament, we cannot easily dismiss it as Fr. Martin does.

"Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them." - Romans 1:24-32

The only way clerics can ignore/deny Paul's clear teaching in Romans on the sin of homosexuality would be to deny Paul's apostolic authority.

The Pope and Bishops are failing Christ's church by not removing/excommunicating all clerics like Fr. Martin.

18 posted on 04/22/2023 11:21:19 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: ebb tide

Another Francis Fah-fah-goat heard from.


19 posted on 04/22/2023 11:52:34 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel ( )
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