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To: MurphsLaw
This is not to detract from or demean these Modern day self-help gurus-

He damns with faint praise.

Peterson's extended lecture series on Genesis and Exodus using a psychological and neuro-science interpretation is more studied, relevant and faith-forming than anything I have ever heard coming from 21st century Catholic Priest of Christian preacher.

5 posted on 06/23/2023 7:42:49 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Isn’t Peterson an atheist though? I’ve noticed he is very careful in his words to not imply that he believes the Bible is actually true, only that Western culture is built on the idea.

I know Rogan is godless. I can’t say I’m a fan of either of them because they seem to be like Oprah but for men.


8 posted on 06/23/2023 8:26:09 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: PGR88
Yes that caveat was for you.
I don't think Petersen is given "faint praise" here though.
To the contrary, this Bishop does admire him alot- and mentions JP often.
(For which he draws more angst from the Traditional folks in the Church.)

Their discussion between them on contemporary existentialism juxtaposing Christianity
was as relevant as any I have listened to as well.

From the Christian perspective however, after all the discussion,
We need a Savior
We cannot save ourselves from worldly sin.
These popular speakers attracting followers has a real potential for personal collapse if the reliance is on self-help is the means to achieve a greater good.
AA's 12 step program was a good analogy for a required higher power in our lives.
So I didn't see it as much as damning,
as I do see these modern day guru's as potentially
ineffective in getting the followers to their final goal.


9 posted on 06/23/2023 8:33:29 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”)
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