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The Biggest Problem With American Christianity: Not What You Think It Is
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 7/23 | Tom Gilson

Posted on 07/26/2023 1:34:30 AM PDT by spirited irish

Maybe America was once a Christian nation with Christian values and a Christian way of looking at life. Or maybe it wasn’t. I don’t even care where you stand on that controversy; the fact is most American churches assumed it was true. The crazy thing is, most American churches still act as if it were true.

And it’s killing us. It’s been strangling us slowly for decades. We preach and teach as if we all lived in comfortable Christendom, when we ought to be praying and preaching and training like missionaries in a hostile foreign culture. Because that’s exactly where we are.

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TOPICS: Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: hostility

1 posted on 07/26/2023 1:34:30 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: reviled downesdad; grcuster; sauropod; metmom; ViLaLuz; Roman_War_Criminal; Apple Pan Dowdy; ...

ping


2 posted on 07/26/2023 1:36:08 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish

At some point you have to admit no matter what you do, it doesn’t work.
Democrats are a lost cause. PERIOD.
I’d invest time and efforts in people worth saving,
Democrats are not those people.
Be separate from them.


3 posted on 07/26/2023 1:42:04 AM PDT by rellic
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To: spirited irish

Christianity in the West is now feminized. Western men are the last holdouts against Islam. Within the next generation, you may see many people in the West convert to Islam.


4 posted on 07/26/2023 1:58:40 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
Within the next generation, you may see many people in the West convert to Islam.

Yes, and much of the sleeping American Church will wonder why this has happened since they've been faithfully supporting the "mission field over there" but not the godless hostile one all around them.

5 posted on 07/26/2023 3:01:37 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: MinorityRepublican
Christianity in the West is now feminized. Western men are the last holdouts against Islam. Within the next generation, you may see many people in the West convert to Islam.

Islam conquered by the sword. But ALSO by appealing to the feelings of disaffected men in the targeted societies.

A dangerous percentage of men in the West feel alienated and unappreciated. Feminism's power in a society is built upon sand, and sand may shift quickly.

6 posted on 07/26/2023 3:18:40 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: spirited irish
Two great books that deal with the Church during current and former pagan/totalitarian societies:

"We Will Not Be Silenced" by Erwin Lutzer, and
"Live Not By Lies" by Rod Dreher

Neither are weighty tomes and are fairly easy reads - but both are great for opening eyes.

7 posted on 07/26/2023 3:20:48 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: spirited irish

God allows bad things to happen, as a way of saying that how you are living is not a good thing. As long as we don’t live in a good way, bad things will continue to happen.


8 posted on 07/26/2023 3:53:45 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: spirited irish

Yes.

The West has become at BEST secular, at worst outright atheist.

Religion lives inside of little pockets, where it has been pushed into. Those be geographic (a church) or within a common interest group, but it is devoid in our laws, public policies, arts and entertainment (except in a negative portrayal), public education (except where attacked as backward and unscientific).

The arts tell you about the values of a society. That’s always been the case.

Today what do the arts tell about us?

Our monuments, architecture, modern main stream music, dance, theater, movies, literature, paintings, sculptures???

What values does modern art talk to? It’s all about shock, being scandalous, breaking with conventions, creating something people will talk about, but devoid of any higher ideas, values, human virtues... Norman Rockwell is dead, in more than one way.

In fact, what are we doing to christian symbols in our public offices, parks, etc?

People will laugh at you for stating such, but Christianity is already under attack, only those being attacked in part do not see or believe such. The slow creep of this has created a new sense of what normal with each passing year and generation. There is disbelief that the creep continues.


9 posted on 07/26/2023 3:56:13 AM PDT by Red6
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To: spirited irish

“Make it your ambition to live a simple life, work with your hands, and be dependent on no man ...” - that’s what’s we’ve forgotten


10 posted on 07/26/2023 4:05:37 AM PDT by 11th_VA (XX < > XY)
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To: 11th_VA

SPOT ON !!!


11 posted on 07/26/2023 4:17:50 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Red6

Very well stated. Obviously you are a thinker, and not a non thinker who allows so-called ‘experts’ to do all the thinking.


12 posted on 07/26/2023 4:44:52 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: Jonty30

Amen to that!


13 posted on 07/26/2023 5:01:34 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: SauronOfMordor

“Feminism’s power”

I have a feeling that technology is a reaon. Jobs requiring manly physical strength are being more and more done by machines.

Also you can’t leave out birth control. That has masculinized women.


14 posted on 07/26/2023 5:08:48 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: spirited irish

The unseen Battle continues but The War is Won by the Cross. The Lord’s eternal Kingdom is being filled in This Age of Grace. Christ Will soon crush that old serpent and establish God’s administration at The New Jerusalem.
We Witness and Wait.


15 posted on 07/26/2023 6:47:29 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Islam conquered by the sword. But ALSO by appealing to the feelings of disaffected men in the targeted societies.

We are ripe for conquest by Islam. It wouldn't take long. Not too confident of a Great Awakening in the West. Orthodox Eastern Europe may be the last bastion of Christianity alive.

16 posted on 07/26/2023 10:58:12 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: spirited irish
Within the next generation, you may see many people in the West convert to Islam

The alternative to Christianity is not secular hedonism. It is Islam.

17 posted on 07/26/2023 11:00:43 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: Jim Noble
The alternative to Christianity is not secular hedonism. It is Islam.

An Islamic society is a better society than secular hedonism.

18 posted on 07/26/2023 12:59:26 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Psalm 73

“We Will Not Be Silenced” by Erwin Lutzer
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Ohhhh I will have to read that!


19 posted on 08/01/2023 5:41:02 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: spirited irish

Excellent article. Good comments, too.


20 posted on 08/01/2023 5:44:05 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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