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To: Nifster

——>The antichrist will arise out of Iran,Iraq,or southern Turkey.

No, Daniel 7 clearly states that the Antichrist (Little Horn/Man of Sin, Son of Perdition) arises out of the 4th beast, which is Pagan ROME. There is only one power that did, and that’s the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. Assumed power in 538 AD and ended by the sword (government) in 1798.

Location: out of 4th beast and among the ten horns (v.8) - The Papacy arose out of Rome among the ten tribal divisions of Rome

Timing: after the ten were established (v.8) - the Papacy became a political power by decree of the Roman emperor Justinian in AD 538 which was after the emergence of the ten tribal divisions that emerged as the Roman Empire fell apart in AD 476.

Uprooted three of the ten horns (v.8) - As the Papacy came to prominence, it influenced Pagan Roman armies to destroy three of the tribes which opposed its Christian doctrines. These three were the Vandals, Ostrogoths, and Heruli. The last of these was destroyed in AD 538 when Justinian’s decree went into effect.

Eyes and mouth of a man (v.8) - the Papacy has a man as its visible head.

Persecutes the saints (v.21, 25) - Ever hear of the Papal persecution during the dark ages - Inquisition, etc. More than 50 million Protestant Christians tortured and killed by the Catholic Church.

Different from the other ten horns (v.24) - the Papacy was a religio-political entity different from the kingdoms before it.

Speak out against God (v.8, 11, 20, 25) - Verse 8 says it will utter boastful or blasphemous things. One quote of many like it from Prompta Bibliothea Canonica Juridicia Moralis Theologica appearing in the Catholic Encyclopedia Volume VI, pp. 25-29, “The Pope is of so great dignity, and so exalted, that he is not a mere man, but as it were, God and the Vicar of God. The Pope is, as it were, God on earth, chief king of kings, having plentitude of power.”

Little Horn attempts to change God’s times and laws (v.25) - The Papacy deleted the second commandment of the Decalogue on idolatry, changed the Sabbath to Sunday in favour of sun worship and divided the tenth commandment on coveting into two parts to get back to Ten Commandments.

Have power for a time, times, and half a time (or three and a half years, forty two months, or 1260 days - see Revelation 12:6, 14) (v.25) - Applying the prophetic day for year principle established in Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6 that equals 1260 years. The Papacy lasted in primary power from AD 538 to 1798 in which year Napoleon’s general Berthier marched into Rome, deposed the Pope, and carried him into exile where he died.

(another view)

It will rise to be a great power after the fall of the pagan Roman Empire (after 476 AD)
It would uproot three of the ten kingdoms the Roman Empire collapsed into
It will be a geographically small nation (a little horn)
It will rule over many people, nations and tongues (it will be universal)
It will be headquartered in the city of seven hills, Rome
It will be a religio-political entity - a political city-state ruled by a priest-king
Its priest-king will make great and blasphemous claims
It will claim authority over all kings
It will claim its power to change the holy times and laws of God as its mark of authority
It will be an apostate Church that makes the nations drink her cup of apostate doctrine
It will be a “mother” Church, with apostate daughters coming from her
It will be a persecuting power, killing the faithful saints of Jesus Christ as heretics
It will hold power and authority for 1260 years following the fall of pagan Rome
It will suffer a deadly wound that will end 1260 years of dominance and persecution
It will be revived after the deadly wound, and all the world would wonder at its revival


13 posted on 08/20/2023 9:25:27 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

The Catholic church has done bad things. Modern day Sodom and Egypt refers to Jerusalem where Christ was crucifed, and the future 2 prophets will die in the streets, lay there 3 days, then be resurrected in the sight of the entire world. Jerusalem is the place where the Abomination that makes desolate will happen. Joseph Dumonds book, It was a Riddle not a Command will clarify much for you.


25 posted on 08/21/2023 10:17:54 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Philsworld

Easily disputed with history.
Rome hasn’t always been small and it’s not small now. It was once the largest land owner and still has parishes all over the world.

The Vatican also isn’t technically in ancient Rome. Vaticanus hill is on the other side of the Timber from the 7 hills of Rome. Strike 2.

Here read this. It’ll help explain past the Jack Chick tracts:

https://www.catholic.com/tract/is-catholicism-pagan


63 posted on 08/23/2023 4:39:20 PM PDT by Texas_Guy
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