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This is an example among many of the "conservative" stance of Orthodox Jews, who are so distant in worldview generally from the Reform, as to make them rather like players in the schisms in the Protetsant world we are watching in real time, as denominations break apart, much over the whole homosexual mainstreaming which demands scripture be subservient to politics.

It's better than allowing homosexual clergy still serve where they can molest children, as Catholicism does.

What good is *unity* when it enables sin in the camp?

--- "...molest children, as Catholicism does. What good is *unity* when it enables sin in the camp?"

We are seduced into group think. I much prefer looking at the individual or a small group when operating together. Catholicism does not molest, some few Catholics do. This holds true for Protestants but the the aggregate Protestant denominations per se though the schisms we are seeing in real time demonstrate why such schisms are happening.

The word, "unity," is interesting, as in a theological sense it so often refers to God, not groups of men. "Unity" when wielded by men usually means "do as I say" while trying to camouflage that with echoes of the vocabulary usually used for God.

I rather like your use of the word "camp." It denotes the smaller "congregation" -- as in, people congregating for some purpose -- and within a camp, assuredly "sin" should be contested and driven out.

This aligns with my notion that group names cannot fully describe "two or three gathered together." I remain skeptical of group names, especially when someone purporting to speak and act for a group goes on about "unity." As do politicians.

What good is *unity* when it enables sin in the camp?

And what "camp" are you going to have that doesn't have sinners in it, even in positions of great authority?

What do you think Luke 12:35-48 is trying to say? Why do you think it's in the Bible at all?

Unity is not an optional extra according to John 17:20-23.