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To: BereanBrain

Of course the Rapture generation of believers will not die. Many say that the Gentile Enoch foreshadows them.


15 posted on 10/18/2023 11:59:08 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: EliRoom8

Again, let’s not go further than scripture says.

You stated “of course the rapture generation won’t die”.

The scripture does not say that.

It says we will be “caught up” in the air with the Lord.

Don’t we know we will get new bodies that are incorruptible?

Why do you want to drag the old one around if you are raptured?

The popular idea of people “disappearing” - where is that in scripture? What if we suddenly went OUT of our bodies and into our new celestial bodies and were with the Lord in the twinkling of an eye?

I don’t know about you, but I am ready for my new body. What happens with the old one? Well it probably won’t blink out of existence.


16 posted on 10/18/2023 12:53:47 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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I think the two witnesses would be people of the present time and the connection to OT figures like Enoch and Elijah is probably symbolic not literal. Are the two witnesses yet active, in other words, are we into their 1260 days of witness despite tribulations? Only if two people now alive know that they are witnessing. I would not say this is definite or obvious but we do seem to be well advanced into end times so it cannot be ruled out, perhaps it is something to be revealed later.

A clue would be what the two witnesses are actually witnessing to, which would appear in context to be the imminent nature of the second coming and the Kingdom. Revelation account of the activity of the two witnesses ends with passages that are parallel to similar scenes that lead to the second coming, and also witnesses are said to be “my two witnesses” by Jesus in giving John of Patmos the vision.

Their death in the street of the “great city” is often interpreted to be Jerusalem, yet nowadays, Jerusalem in no sense really has authority over kings of the earth, the only city that has any such position today is New York City and that only in the rather limited sense that it hosts the United Nations with its rather weak power over nations (one could say almost non-existent power). Also New York City is a fairly good proxy for the central power of globalism, and that is an ideology with considerable power over kings of the nations.

So I would say the most likely identity of two witnesses would be two individuals who have spoken in public about the superior nature of the Kingdom to the world system of globalism. That is not an obvious identifier but could include almost anybody reading this. Got plans to visit New York City?

Personally, I think we are well into the 1260 days (Daniel states in parallel to Revelation that 1260 days precedes the destruction) and that the 1260 days are a subset of the 1290 (abomination that makes desolate, an event and period confirmed by Jesus to disciples).

I don’t foresee a timetable of 1260, followed by 1290 more days. Some do, and place the Rapture at end of 1260 days, before the period of abomination(s). I also believe the blessing of 1335 days is meshed into the 1260 and 1290 day countdown, so it comes 45 days after abomination(s) and 75 days after destruction/death of witnesses.

We could be a long way into this countdown. Biden’s presidency could represent the concurrent evil of 1260 days against which the witnesses are prophesying. It all depends on how literal or symbolic the prophecy is. Biden has been president for three years now. One could time his days as starting from nomination since the election was clearly stolen and therefore of no actual value in timing his rule; in fact he more or less announced in advance that the election would be stolen and he would win by fraud. Only the current “establishment” failed to notice, all of us did.

I would go so far as to say it will happen soon, the fulfilment of prophecy, and it will become obvious then. I don’t think we are past 1260 days but it could be one of those things where hindsight shows that we were; the 1290 days would be less easy to hide in coded language to be revealed later, and the 1335 days will definitely be an open event obvious to everybody.

So perhaps past 1260 days, probably not past 1290 days, definitely not past 1335, is how I would look at this evolving situation. All other aspects of prophecy seem to be in place (beast, dragon, false prophet, harlot, possible approach to Armageddon, etc).


21 posted on 10/18/2023 1:14:40 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It is possible to be against both Putin and globalism, in fact, I've done it. Give it a try. )
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