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Being Christian Is Becoming Illegal in the UK
Hotair ^ | 12/18/2023 | David Strom

Posted on 12/18/2023 9:05:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Several stories have been published about people getting arrested for publicly praying in the UK.

Actually, that’s not quite right because some forms of prayer are more equal than others. If you are a Muslim, you are perfectly fine praying, or for that matter, calling for the murder of Jews and the elimination of Israel as a state.

So, more appropriately, I should say that praying as a Christian is becoming illegal in Great Britain. Praying for the spread of Sharia law is just fine and dandy.

But according to @metpoliceuk, this is just fine.



pic.twitter.com/5iF1Nc08M8

— Annette Jals (@AMJalsevac) December 18, 2023

Great Britain has a law restricting any religious observance outside abortion clinics, but the laws go far beyond what you might imagine. Given abortion’s status as a legal activity in the country, it is utterly unsurprising that activities that obstruct the provision of abortions are illegal, and as unpleasant as I find abortion, I support laws that restrict activities that go beyond speech and cross the line into obstructing people entering the clinics.

I would like to see the practice of abortion stopped, but as long as it is legal, it should be protected as any other service is.

But we are far past anything resembling the protection of trade. Christians are getting arrested for silent prayers in areas that obstruct nobody and for preaching the Bible when others are offended.

Islamic Republic of #UK:

Man arrested for reading from the Bible. But Muslims are allowed to block high profile areas and pray en masse like outside Downing St.pic.twitter.com/aeYmrTau9D

— Aby (@Abyy_085) December 13, 2023

Muslims have been marching in London’s streets, calling for the institution of Sharia law in Great Britain, while Christians are getting arrested for the offense of silently praying in public within sight of an abortion clinic.

Isabel has been arrested again for praying silently outside an abortion clinic.

Listen to the words used:

"You've said you're engaging in prayer, which is the offense."

"Silent prayer."

"You were still engaging in prayer, which is the offense." pic.twitter.com/Sn2qzoHOBn

— Dane (@UltraDane) March 8, 2023

At some point, one has to wonder whether, de facto, Islam is becoming a state religion. Not so much established by the state but through the suppression of Christianity and the implicit promotion of Islam.

I suspect that the reason is not so much an institutional embrace of Islam but for the pusillanimous reason that Christians will submit to state authority, even illegitimate state authority, while the powers that be fear that Muslims will riot even if they are being prosecuted for breaking the law.

#Politics If a Brit says a silent prayer she gets arrested! What you must remember is that these are the voters that guarantee #SadiqKhan stays as Mayor of #London. https://t.co/aO6WH5Fitr

— Breaking News 🇬🇧 (@BNN_Breaking) December 12, 2023

Suppression of religious expression that doesn’t disturb the peace should never occur, of course, but Western European countries don’t have legal protections for free speech as in America. This allows the elite to suppress ideas that they don’t like, such as opposition to abortion or more traditional values.

This explains the attacks on Twitter/X, as I wrote about earlier today. Elon offended the transnational elite, and they are striking back.

Muslims have found a loophole: antisocial behavior, which is at least as harmful as suppression of religious liberty.

There should be one set of rules for everybody, which should be based on the principle of maximizing liberty, consistent with public order. Instead, we get this hodgepodge of suppressing Christianity and giving Muslims free rein.



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Islam; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antichristian; britain; christianity; christians; greatbritain; groominggangs; khan; pakistan; rop; sunak; terrorism; uk; unitedkingdom; untiedkingdom; waronterror
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1 posted on 12/18/2023 9:05:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If any religion should be outlawed, it’s that stupid, disgusting death cult known as ISlime.


2 posted on 12/18/2023 9:12:01 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: SeekAndFind

Coming soon to the U.S.


3 posted on 12/18/2023 9:13:17 PM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Mark17

All the while, false religions get free passes.


4 posted on 12/18/2023 9:14:54 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: SeekAndFind

tyranny

selective enforcement of the law


5 posted on 12/18/2023 9:15:00 PM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: SeekAndFind

The way things are headed over there, Islam will soon be mandatory.


6 posted on 12/18/2023 9:18:49 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: SeekAndFind
...I suspect that the reason is not so much an institutional embrace of Islam but for the pusillanimous reason that Christians will submit to state authority, even illegitimate state authority, while the powers that be fear that Muslims will riot even if they are being prosecuted for breaking the law...

Yeah. Pretty much. And it works out that way if you don't even try.

7 posted on 12/18/2023 9:22:05 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting numbers. (Various sources so some don’t agree)
Census 2022: Catholicism declines, ‘no religion’ and Hinduism climb in latest data – The Irish Times.May 30, 2023
The total number of Roman Catholics in Ireland fell by 180,783 between 2016 and 2022
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Scotland.
According to the 2019 Scottish Household survey, since 2009, there has been an increase in the proportion
of adults reporting not belonging to a religion to 56%.
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Humanists UK is the most prominent organization espousing irreligion in the United Kingdom. The organization reported recent polling suggesting that the population with no religion may have reached 34 million. In 2023, research from the World Value Survey found that only 49% of Britons said they believed in God.
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Muslims.
3,868,133 (2021) 6.5% of the total population (Figures for England and Wales only).
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Religion in England
Christianity (46.3%)
No religion (36.7%)
Islam (6.7%)
Hinduism (1.8%)
Sikhism (0.9%)
Buddhism (0.5%)
Judaism (0.5%)


8 posted on 12/18/2023 10:04:58 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: No name given
All the while, false religions get free passes.

Yes, false religions will continue to get free passes, while Biblical Christianity, will probably become illegal. It’s a sign of the times.

9 posted on 12/18/2023 10:11:31 PM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Mark17
No religion triggers people so much like Christianity.

Seeing a cross is salvation to believers and judgment to unbelievers.

10 posted on 12/18/2023 10:46:24 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97
No religion triggers people so much like Christianity.

Since Satan hates Christianity, he energizes his human followers, to also hate Christianity.
You are right. The cross represents salvation to believers, and judgment to unbelievers.

11 posted on 12/18/2023 11:20:49 PM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: BradyLS

Yes. Politicians fear Muslims who chop off the heads of the infidels. Christians? Not so much. The same dynamic is happening on college campus’.


12 posted on 12/18/2023 11:31:25 PM PST by DeplorablePaul
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To: Mark17

They outlawed believers when Jesus walked this earth too -


13 posted on 12/18/2023 11:48:22 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: joshua c

Anarcho-tyranny: where those liked by the regime can break laws as they please (anarchy) while those disliked by the regime face selective persecution by the law (tyranny).


14 posted on 12/19/2023 12:07:42 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: caww
They outlawed believers when Jesus walked this earth too -

Not much has changed, has it?

15 posted on 12/19/2023 12:24:09 AM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Mark17

Zechariah 14:2-4
King James Version

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah+14%3A2-4&version=KJV


16 posted on 12/19/2023 1:42:03 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well the UK does not have a bill of rights, so no surprise there.


17 posted on 12/19/2023 3:54:34 AM PST by funwithfood
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To: SeekAndFind

The Church of England sees about 1.2% of the population attending church. For all practical purposes, England has surrendered to islam and the middle east. Without something happening, the church in England is a goner.


18 posted on 12/19/2023 3:57:27 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule#1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: funwithfood

“Well the UK does not have a bill of rights, so no surprise there.”

That bill of rights isn’t helping Trump, his associates, or the Jan. 6 folks. I don’t see a whole lot of difference.


19 posted on 12/19/2023 4:15:27 AM PST by Danie_2023
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sorry, I don’t agree with the writer regarding “as long as abortion is legal we should not obstruct their right to do so”.

I guess if killing Christians or “Maga” was legal (which will probably be soon) we should not obstruct their right to do so as well?


20 posted on 12/19/2023 4:35:07 AM PST by mikelets456
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