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Posted on 03/02/2024 9:14:38 AM PST by ebb tide
The Vatican released a video address proving that a scandalous painting portraying a nude Jesus ministering to Judas, Christ’s own betrayer, hangs in Pope Francis’ personal study.
Vatican News on Wednesday released a video address from Pope Francis delivered that day to the Pan-American Committee of Judges for Social Rights and Franciscan Doctrine (COPAJU), showing that the controversial painting is indeed hanging in Francis’ study, behind his desk.
In 2021, the Vatican’s own newspaper L’Osservatore Romano, revealed that the artist donated the painting to Francis and that it hung “behind the desk” of the Pope. However, proof of this has not been made visible to the public until now.
The Vatican-approved publication displayed a portion of the painting as its cover photo in 2021. A comparison shows it is clearly the painting hanging in Francis’ study.
The 2021 Vatican editorial explained that that painting was inspired by Francis’ 2018 book, Quando pregate dite Padre Nostro, in which Francis suggests Judas may not be in hell. This idea directly conflicts with statements of previous popes and Our Lord Himself, who said of Judas it would be better for him that he had not been born.
2018 was not the only time Francis has pushed the notion that Judas may be saved. In 2020, he did the same thing in a televised homily in his private chapel on Wednesday of Holy Week, where he had to read that very passage where Jesus says it would be better for Judas not to have been born.
“How did Judas end up? I don’t know,” Pope Francis said at the time.
Nevertheless, the teaching of the church is clear on the damnation of Judas. The Catechism of the Council of Trent is very explicit on this point, saying that Judas “lost soul and body” and that his betrayal despite his priesthood “brought him everlasting destruction.”
Moreover, the first Pope, St. Peter, was clear that after Judas betrayed Christ he had to be replaced as an apostle, whereas after the deaths of other apostles they were not replaced.
Theologian Peter Kwasniewski explained this point well in an essay at Rorate Caeli:
The first Pope argues that Judas, by his transgression, fell away from the apostleship forever. Note that Judas was the only apostle whose place had to be filled after his death. When James was killed by Herod (Acts 12:2), Peter and the others did not appoint another man as a James substitute. There were successors to the apostles (and many more than 12 of them!), but no other replacements. Ultimately, all of the original 11 together with Matthias left this world in death to become the everlasting foundations of the heavenly Jerusalem: “And the wall of the city had 12 foundations, and in them, the 12 names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb” (Rev 21:14). Put simply, an apostle who died in a state of grace is an apostle forever, irreplaceable, going to his reward as a permanent foundation stone of the Church. This can only mean that Judas, who had to be replaced, died in sin and lost his ministry and apostleship forever. He went “to his own place,” that is, the place that befitted him: hell.
But we hardly need go to the Catechism or even the first Pope on this question when Our Lord Himself has already been explicit on it. Three times in the Scriptures, Jesus is recorded as indicating Judas’ ultimate fate. In John 6:71, Jesus calls Judas a devil. He says “Have not I chosen you 12? And one of you is a devil.” The following verse explains, “Now he meant Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon; for this same was about to betray him, whereas he was one of the 12.”
In John 17:12, Jesus calls Judas the “son of perdition” in his prayer to God the Father. “While I was with them, I kept them in thy name. Those whom thou gavest me have I kept: and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition: that the scripture may be fulfilled.”
And finally, in both the Gospels of Matthew 26:24 and Mark 14:21, we hear Jesus saying of Judas: “It would be better for that man if he had never been born.”
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Folks may be reading too much into it. Maybe he just likes pictures of naked men.
There will come a day when he too will stand before the Throne of the Most High, and he will greatly regret his disrespect and choices in life.
That’s only because the portrait of Bill Clinton in the blue dress wasn’t for sale!
Poof Frankie I
More likely, he took it from City By The Bay known for it's unique diversity in lifestyle choices
Pope poofter
Who doesn’t?
“The public now has confirmation that a scandalous depiction of a nude Jesus ministering to his traitor is really there.”
Jesus forgives sin and was possibly doing that to Judas in the picture.. If you’ll notice in the blown up picture in the site I give you below, there are holes in the hands of Christ indicating post crucifixion. Some points here for the people making the statement:
1. They did not at the time crucify people in two piece matching suits.
2. If they had read the bible, they would have read that the guards and others fought for the clothes of Christ.
3. I don’t think Christ and Judas posed for the painting so it’s someone’s conception of something made up. And the painter didn’t read the Bible either.
Extra comment, why are the last words of the website URL displaying “campaign=USA?”
wy69
So do you, like Bergoglio, believe Hell could be empty?
If so, neither of you have read the Bible.
He’s no frikkin’ Pope... He’s a joke.
will no one rid us of this meddlesome priest...
That part the link isn’t actually part of it. The link would function without it.
But when you use that link, it probably tells the site operator something about how you came across the link. I thought that was pretty much general knowledge these days.
I told you pope was a fag. Didn’t I
“Ministering” lol
“So do you, like Bergoglio, believe Hell could be empty?”
Didn’t say that at all. Never even insinuated it. But interpreting the picture of what appears to be a risen Christ who was buried supposedly without clothes doing anything over Judas, in a scene that is nothing more than a redition and obviously not the truth considering the three problems I displayed.
Additionally, there are two tales about what happens to Judas after betraying Jesus, both resulting in his death. Matthew 27 (NIV) says that he becomes filled with regret and commits suicide by hanging. On the other hand, Acts 1:18 (NIV) says that Judas dies suddenly in a field he bought with the money he received for betraying Jesus.
27 When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:
2 And when they had bound him, they led him away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor.
3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
“Acts 1:18 - 18 (With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out.
Neither event mentioned the meeting of Christ and Judas after the crucifixion and his death description. So is it real or just the painters imagination? I don’t know of any proof.
wy69
Like a movie where the guy gets locked in the cell and his new mate says “ you gonna kiss the baby”.
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