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To: JAKraig
Catholics believe that and many protestant religions believe it.

Actually, the full Catholic formulation is "Baptism, or the effects thereof". The details of what that means entails a lively discussion to this day. We need it for everyone born before Christianity. The Holy Innocents killed by Herod along with some martyrs who were killed after conversion but before having an opportunity for Baptism (some were slain on the spot after simply saying "I'm with him") qualifies as a Baptism of Blood.

I do not make of Mormons for their practice of wearing special clothing. I wear a brown scapular (two pieces of brown wool tied with a string worn around the neck as a spiritual devotion. Some might think it as a charm or some such without an explanation. So I do not begrudge the Mormons their practice without reading up more on it. I will certainly take that over "Christian" artists who wear a cross necklace while their bosoms are almost completely poured out. If modesty is a primary motivator, good for them.
18 posted on 03/17/2024 12:10:51 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Dr. Sivana
I do not make of Mormons for their practice of wearing special clothing.

I can see WHY!!

I wear a brown scapular (two pieces of brown wool tied with a string worn around the neck as a spiritual devotion

54 posted on 03/17/2024 4:43:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dr. Sivana
I wear a brown scapular...

HMMMmmm...


During the early Middle Ages, the laity began to associate themselves with various monastic orders and formed Confraternities, secular oblates that would receive the scapular to wear upon death, as a sign of great honor.  Eventually, this tradition transformed into the small sacramental scapulars of today that are worn daily under or over regular clothing as an open sign of devotion.  The four oldest scapulars originated from four confraternities, the Carmelites, Servites, Trinitarians, and the Mercederians.  Today there are many more kinds of scapulars, and not all of them associated with a particular confraternity. 
 
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A small scapular must consist of two wool squares of cloth, connected by two strings (of any material), so that one segment rests on your chest and the other on your back.  If you would like, you can wear more than one scapular at a time, so long as each scapular is complete.  Once you have your scapular it is important to have it blessed by a priest and, if necessary, to become invested in the confraternity associated with it (a further blessing that can be granted by an authorized priest). 
 
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Once you have your scapular blessed, it must be worn at all times in order to share in the indulgences and privileges of the particular scapular.  Should you remove the scapular for any period of time you are no longer eligible for its associated blessings, however, as soon as you resume wearing the scapular you are reinvested in its indulgences. Should your scapular wear out, you may replace it with a new scapular, as the indulgences are invested in the devotion of the wearer, not the object. Although the initial scapular investment prayer is recited only once and is bound to the wearer, each new scapular that replaces a worn or lost one can be blessed by a priest. 

 

Types of Scapulars

Scapular of Our Lady of Mount Carmel (Brown Scapular)

Scapular of Conversion (Green Scapular)

Scapular of the Immaculate Conception (Blue Scapular)

Scapular of the Passion (Red Scapular)

Scapular of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus

Scapular of Our Lady of Ransom (Ransom)

 

https://www.catholiccompany.com/content/how-to-use-the-scapular#

 

 

 


How to understand highlighted stuff:
 
Folks making up their own rules.
Hard and fast rule.
Not so hard and fast.

55 posted on 03/17/2024 4:45:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dr. Sivana; .45 Long Colt; Apple Pan Dowdy; BDParrish; Big Red Badger; BlueDragon; boatbums; ...
We need it for everyone born before Christianity. The Holy Innocents killed by Herod along with some martyrs who were killed after conversion but before having an opportunity for Baptism (some were slain on the spot after simply saying "I'm with him") qualifies as a Baptism of Blood.

No: neither everyone born before Christianity needs baptism nor aborted infants or the like need baptism, but under the new covenant the culpable need the faith which baptism requires and manifests, and which signifies death to the old life and resurrection to walk in newness of life.

Yet baptism is never the cause of regeneration (though in some cases it can be the occasion) - much less the act itself, as Rome imagines it is, resulting in a false damnable confidence of being spiritual children of God.

The redeemed are those who have been spiritually born of the Spirit (Jn. 3:2-7) by effectual, penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating faith in the Divine Son of God sent be the Father to be the Savior of the world, (1 Jn. 4:14) who saves sinners by His sinless shed blood, on His account.

And the faith which is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) is that which effects obedience by the Spirit, (Rm. 8:14; 1 Ths. 1:3-9; Heb. 6:9, 10) and thus it is shown in water baptism (normatively, and by immersion) and following the Lord. (Acts 2:38-47; Jn. 10:27, 28)

Whom they shall go to be with or His return (Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; Heb. 12:22, 23; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17)

In contrast to those who were never born of the Spirit or who terminally fall away. (Gal. 5:1-4; Heb. 3:12; Heb. 10:25-39) Glory and thanks be to God.

70 posted on 03/17/2024 5:49:55 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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