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To: restornu
I am LDS and don't totally agree with their concept but I do fine it interesting and felt others should know tha beside the LDS their are others out their that have a different point of view!
I truly don't believe that Heavenly Father has one definition in Heaven for the WORD, and another definition here on Earth for the WORD!
I guess my question to you is..........
"What is YOUR definition of 'the Word'?"

Yes, we all have the same verses, so I'll do a little MORE work (it ain't that hard) and post a few more. As long as we are stirring the pot, let's do it BIG TIME......
NIV John 6:46
46. No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.

NIV John 14:6-11
6. Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
7. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."
8. Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9. Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, `Show us the Father'?
10. Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
11. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.


Let's throw out EVERYTHING the 'bible' says because John 6:46 and John 14:9 contradict one another!
8 posted on 05/09/2002 6:04:29 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Elsie
I guess my question to you is..........
"What is YOUR definition of 'the Word'?"

All I am saying the definition/relationship of Father and Son means the same in Heaven as it mean to us here on earth.

As far as I am concern Jesus is God Almighty to us here, but he still is not the Father in Heaven.

I truly don't believe that God has one definition in Heaven for the WORD, and another definition here on Earth for the WORD!

Let's throw out EVERYTHING the 'bible' says because John 6:46 and John 14:9 contradict one another!

No where did I say this to you!

As long as we are stirring the pot, let's do it BIG TIME......

What are you talking about this is a discussion of an understanding of words!

Luke 3
21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,

22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

1.Jesus being baptised present.

2.So here we have the Holy Ghost in a form of a dove present.

3.And the Heavenly Father speaking from heaven present.

Three seperate personages, all one in mind, but 3 individuals.

Philip 1
27 Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with bone mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

9 posted on 05/09/2002 9:33:48 AM PDT by restornu
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To: Elsie
That is a fascinating comparison of quotes - I had never noticed that before.
10 posted on 05/09/2002 9:53:34 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Elsie
Let's throw out EVERYTHING the 'bible' says because John 6:46 and John 14:9 contradict one another

What contradiction? Do you really think John was confused, contradictory? I find it difficult to imagine others think the Word of God is contradictory....

14 posted on 05/12/2002 10:40:55 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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