[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

I made my post from personal experience because of a family member who paid into disability for nearly 40 years before becoming disabled. I don't know how much he paid into disability but I'm sure it probably exceeded $40k or so??? So, why should the money HE paid into it not be entitled to him? You can argue about the Unconstitutional or Socialist/Communist ideology of Social Security, disability, medicaid and the other entitlement programs, but nearly ALL of us pay into it because we're FORCED to.. Yes we all think it's wrong but.. Will YOU be collecting Social Security? Provided it's not out of funds you surely will.

For those disabled since birth, yes of course the family is responsible but there are perhaps even MORE Americans who become disabled later in life and are unable to work and are damn well entitled to the money stolen from them throughout their working years via SS/Disability/Medicaid/etc.. Your darned tootin'!!!!

[trebb]

You obviously missed my points - anyone who was forced to pay for SS and other bennies" will be applying for them, but you may have missed the part where they have spent all the money folks have put in over the years and the bucket is empty - hence it being considered an "unfunded" benefit. As with anything the government has "given" us, they can take it away - I spent 24 years in the military and when I enlisted, i was promised free health care for life and the same for my wife if I happened to have one. Guess how that turned out? SS ages are going up and talks of benefit cuts are always going on. My point is that the government should not be involved at all because, as a wise man once pointed out, "A government that is big enough to give you everything you need, is also big enough to take away everything you have".

As you point out, we who have paid in, by force, for all these years are "entitled" to reap the "b enefits" of it. I'm saying that we are only as "entilted as the Commies say we are and we are no longer entitled when they decide it is too inconvenient. Once again, my whole point is that when the People are able and willing to fend for themselves, these government pogroms have no place except in very limited and rare cases. A self-reliant and self-dependant society can tell the government to suck sand.

Once again, I hope you find the group you are looking for and that it has enough folks with the ability to formulate some really good debates.

[heartwood]

Suppose the parents have taken care of the disabled child since birth, but now they are old, disabled, or dead? Suppose they have not been able to create a trust big enough to support the child for the rest of his life, perhaps forty years more?

And please remember, having a disabled child is likely to limit one’s ability to earn money in the first place, and entail greater expenses for his care, making it harder to come up with this trust.

And some disabled people’s expenses will exceed any ability of their family (how extended, btw?) to provide for them.

Well, there is charity, and perhaps many of us would give more to charity if we were not taxed so much.

There is also considerable abuse of SS disabilit payments, another story.