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A new perspective on the 2nd Amendment - clarity
A Century of Lawmaking ^
| 12-03-2015
| Founders, j argese
Posted on 12/03/2015 3:59:22 AM PST by j.argese
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To: teeman8r
Thanks for signing your reply.
Maybe if you could get your head out of that warm dark place where you keep it, could you quote me from any of my responses where I say regulation of anything is okay?
As a grammatical fact, in the wording of either version of the amendment, (presently the point of discussion in this thread) the object (that’s a grammatical term with a real meaning) of the word “regulated” is the militia. I know careful reading is tough for you but try anyway, it’s been a continual source of amusement for me, bless your little heart
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posted on
12/03/2015 3:35:27 PM PST
by
muir_redwoods
(Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
To: Flag_This
“A well-balanced breakfast, being essential to a healthy life, the right of The People to store and eat food, shall not be infringed.”
Who has the right to food? The well-balanced breakfast, or The People?
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posted on
12/03/2015 6:56:45 PM PST
by
elteemike
(Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak!)
To: muir_redwoods
Your post thirteen your concession that they “might” be able to regulate militias, the militia is the people... Permitting regulation of them is a ban to us... Enjoy your time as a gun grabber... You wear the brown shirt well.
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posted on
12/04/2015 3:26:41 AM PST
by
teeman8r
(Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
To: j.argese
I believe it is only something a college trained government employee or a politican would even think about.
It is like Jesus said about people who would swallow whales and choke on knats, he was talking about these same people.
But i see what you mean.
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posted on
07/17/2016 6:27:03 AM PDT
by
ravenwolf
(uakingua)
To: j.argese
We have a governing system of “checks and balances.” Hence, as a check against our standing central government's military forces, necessary to protect from foreign threats, our citizens are armed.
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posted on
12/10/2016 6:38:34 AM PST
by
RAY
(God Bless the USA)
To: j.argese
That includes, Sabers, Swords, Archery Bows, Combat Knives, spears, etc,.
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posted on
08/29/2017 10:31:23 AM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country.)
To: Gaffer
“INDIVIDUAL’s right to bear arms be infringed for any purpose.”
Amen.
Joseph Story, the youngest member of SCOTUS, wrote “Commentaries on the Constitution”. He did one on the 2nd.
Three reason for the second.
Protect our border (happened during WWII),
Protect our property. (Think Rodney King riots and guns on roof tops.)
Protect our country from an evil government.
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posted on
04/05/2021 7:16:16 PM PDT
by
lizma2
To: Gaffer
A “well-regulated militia” is 18th terminology for a militia that is able to practice and drill on their own, implying that they have their own weapons with which to do that.
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posted on
01/22/2022 6:46:18 PM PST
by
Campion
(What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
To: Gaffer
A “well-regulated militia” is 18th century terminology for a militia that is able to practice and drill on their own, implying that they have their own weapons with which to do that.
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posted on
01/22/2022 6:47:30 PM PST
by
Campion
(What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
To: j.argese
Go here:
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constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/full-text -
Search for the word "militia".
You will find the word used 4 times (plus twice in the bill of rights):
Article I-Section 8: Powers of Congress
To provide for calling forth the
Militia to execute the Laws of the Union,
suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the
Militia,
and for governing such Part of them as may be employed
in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively,
the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the
Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
Article II-Section 2
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army
and Navy of the United States, and of the
Militia of the several States,
when called into the actual Service of the United States;
Second Amendment
A well regulated
Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Fifth Amendment
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime,
unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury,
except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the
Militia,
when in actual service in time of War or public danger;
- - - - - - - - - -
When has congress provided for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia?
When have the States, appointed officers, and trained the Militia?
When has congress prescribed the discipline for the militia?
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posted on
01/22/2022 7:28:46 PM PST
by
Repeal The 17th
(Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
To: j.argese
One comma or two, a prefatory clause does not modify the operative clause in any way. Even in today’s English.
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posted on
01/22/2022 7:33:05 PM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(A Psalm in napalm...)
To: CitizenUSA
Arguing over words is easier than having to pick up a gun and end their unConstitutional infringements the “old fashioned way”.
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posted on
01/22/2022 7:35:20 PM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(A Psalm in napalm...)
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