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Charlie Liteky, who gave back his Medal of Honor, dies
Fox News ^ | Jan 22, 2017 | associated press

Posted on 01/22/2017 10:37:36 AM PST by redcatcherb412

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To: redcatcherb412

He helped make it possible to enslave millions of Vietnamese. No sympathy here and yes, I was a career Army Officer but post Vietnam.


21 posted on 01/22/2017 11:37:51 AM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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To: redcatcherb412

I’m not even sure that you”earn” a Medal of Honor. Some people seem to have a bravery gene that clicks into action when it’s needed. You don’t think about yourself or your own mortality. Maybe you don’t think at all, you just do what has to be done. Whatever it is, very few have it but thank God they do.


22 posted on 01/22/2017 11:45:59 AM PST by beelzepug (Anybody I attack may rest assured it's personal!)
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To: redcatcherb412

On behalf of the men whose lives he saved, I will say thank you on their behalf for his service, and the things he did while serving.

And I will leave it at that.


23 posted on 01/22/2017 11:58:30 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: Uncle Sam 911

+++++++++++++He helped make it possible to enslave millions of Vietnamese. No sympathy here and yes, I was a career Army Officer but post Vietnam++++++++++++++++

A little confusing equating your claim saving 20 grunts lives with enslavement of millions. A little bit of projection it seems. He was an unarmed chaplain who officiated in field church services and was present in a combat op that he ended up saving the soldiers. Unless you are aware of these 20 soldiers going back into combat enslaving millions of Vietnamese, your claim rings hollow at least to me. Maybe an undecorated fellow officers sour grapes, but who knows. I was just a PFC when I served with the chaplain. Thank you for your service career.


24 posted on 01/22/2017 12:11:59 PM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: CodeToad
Why do homos always go to genital areas??

I don't know Toad, maybe they're just thinking of you and your buddy from Gay State?

Why are you bringing homos into this conversation anyway?.........That's just plain, well, weird.

25 posted on 01/22/2017 12:31:08 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Gay State Conservative
Let me guess...you shed tears of joy

Nope, you guessed wrong.......

An MOH recipient has the right to protest war after he/she has experienced its horrors...and in this HERO'S case, it was in a theater of war WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF A WEAPON.

As far as your equally ignorant comment

But if he,particularly as a veteran of the Armed Forces,was among those chanting "Hey,hey...LBJ" then he contributed,as I said,to the bad guys winning.

More evidence that you didn't read the article. He didn't begin his anti-war advocacy until well after he left the priesthood in 1983...

I hope the MODS leave your comments up since everyone here needs to see your ignorance...........

26 posted on 01/22/2017 12:47:45 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

“That’s just plain, well, weird. “

You brought anal into this, not me. THAT was weird. Just pointing out that homos do that. I know you’re not a homo, but still, come on, let’s leave butts out of this.


27 posted on 01/22/2017 1:20:05 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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Hey Toad, since your comment was obviously in support of Gay State, what was YOUR contribution in the Vietnam war that would put you on the same level as Captain/Chaplain Liteky who gave five years of his life from 1966 to 1971 in defense of this country that would give not only YOU but Gay State the right to criticize him for his post Vietnam humanitarian choices?


28 posted on 01/22/2017 1:34:22 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: beelzepug

——I’m not even sure that you”earn” a Medal of Honor. Some people seem to have a bravery gene that clicks into action when it’s needed. You don’t think about yourself or your own mortality. Maybe you don’t think at all, you just do what has to be done. Whatever it is, very few have it but thank God they do.——

With that statement the first thing popping into my mind was Audie Murphy or Sgt Alvin York. Two other MOH recipients that lived through their actions. Even though Chaplain Liteky was not a combatant as wasn’t Corporal Desmond T. Doss, as you stated, all of these men ‘had it’.


29 posted on 01/22/2017 1:48:25 PM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: Hot Tabasco

Hey you guys, let’s keep in mind the honorable actions of the Padre for which he was awarded the CMOH.

What he did and why later in life is immaterial to that fact. I am sure he had his reasons for his position regarding his award later on. I am a peace activist too, but always ready to fight (ideologically or physically) for that peace in or out of uniform.

I would carry his coffin if asked....

Greater love ( and often courage) has no man then he lay down his life for his friends (regardless of the politics that put him in that situation).

“De Oppresso Liber”


30 posted on 01/22/2017 1:56:42 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Manly Warrior

People process the horrors of war very differently. Gene Roddenberry, Kurt Vonnegut and Rod Serling all served honorably during WWII and adopted pacifist viewpoints afterwards. While I may not agree with their opinions, I can respect the path they may have taken to arrive at them.


31 posted on 01/22/2017 2:05:34 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Pontiac

Makes me wonder if he has a VA provided marker whether it will have the MOH engraved on it.


32 posted on 01/22/2017 2:08:57 PM PST by pfflier
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Hey you guys, let’s keep in mind the honorable actions of the Padre for which he was awarded the CMOH.

Your comment is better directed towards Code Toad and Gay State.....I've already been voicing my disgust at their comments.

33 posted on 01/22/2017 2:16:21 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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Makes me wonder if he has a VA provided marker whether it will have the MOH engraved on it.

My guess is that he would.

Those markers are provided by and placed by the Veterans of Foreign Wars or the American Legion.

The guys I know in those organizations would not hold this man’s post service actions against him in deciding to put up the marker.

His actions on the field of battle speak to his love of his fellow soldiers and that is what counts to those men.

34 posted on 01/22/2017 2:31:23 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: redcatcherb412

Obviously I have no problems at all with his actions in the field in Vietnam and I salute him there. Its his activities when he came home to join the pro communists that negates everything before in my mind. And yes, helping NV win the war in our streets did lead to the enslavement of millions and death of many as well.


35 posted on 01/22/2017 4:07:34 PM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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Maybe an undecorated fellow officers sour grapes.... Thank you for your service career. Talk about ringing hollow. I don’t need your thanks after a statement like that and no, I was not awarded the MOH if that is what you mean.


36 posted on 01/22/2017 4:09:47 PM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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-—He helped make it possible to enslave millions of Vietnamese-—

This quote is confusing coming from a career Army Officer about a fellow Officer, a Captain, a non-combatant that never took a life and was a Roman Catholic Priest attending to the spiritual needs in the field of soldiers in his unit, along with his actions resulting in his attaining the MOH. Thus my sour grapes reference as most military stand with their brothers, not denigrate them, and I consider your statement to reduce the perception of the Chaplains accomplishment. Yet, I did mean the thank you for a full service career which is not an easy career during war or peacetime. Unless the statement was in jest, I can only think that you think Chaplain Litekys award was not earned justly.


37 posted on 01/22/2017 8:18:45 PM PST by redcatcherb412
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His Vietnam service is worthy of everything he received. But as we used to say in the military, one “ah shi+” wipes out 10 attaboys.


38 posted on 01/23/2017 10:20:25 AM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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