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New Bio Shows President Bush in "Pop Culture Void"
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Posted on 02/10/2002 2:50:15 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat

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To: altura
Cheesey is better... Why do you think Star Wars is so popular?
61 posted on 02/10/2002 4:46:06 PM PST by marajade
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To: Savage Beast

The "pop culture void" in which President Bush exists is best described as the absence of East or Left Coast influence on his life.

This is considered a cultural sin amongst the Beautiful People.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

62 posted on 02/10/2002 4:48:11 PM PST by section9
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Good for W. The less anyone knows about that nonsense the better.
63 posted on 02/10/2002 4:48:19 PM PST by InvisibleChurch
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To: Howlin
Thank you, ever since I read about this book, all I could think of was.....Dowdy first wrote about this. I thought it was a recent article, did a quick search, and gave up. It was a year and a half ago......yikes!
64 posted on 02/10/2002 4:48:43 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Recovering_Democrat
How can I arrange to forget who DiCaprio is?
65 posted on 02/10/2002 4:52:53 PM PST by redbaiter
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To: gaspar
You know, you are really right on this. As Clint Eastwood ("Dirty Harry" once said, "A man's got to know his limitations")
67 posted on 02/10/2002 5:03:09 PM PST by LS
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Current pop culture is for the most part intellectually void and has about as much redeming social value as a pile of steaming dog barf.

At least our President isn't wasting his time and ours by being concerned with such drivel as DiCaprio and Sex In The City.

68 posted on 02/10/2002 5:06:48 PM PST by The Great RJ
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ALL:

Clinton didn't even know how to use a phone when he got out of office....but I am sure he knew ALL about that slutty show sexinthecity.
What's a yenta? Is it a Jewish term?

69 posted on 02/10/2002 5:07:24 PM PST by Sungirl
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To: Savage Beast,recovering_democrat
1. You certainly could have seen Titanic, enjoyed it, even thought very highly of it, and STILL not remembered DiCarprio's name. He was flash-in-the-pan, 15-minutes-of-fame actor of the year in---what?---1998 or something? Ever hear of him since then? This writer implies somehow that Leonardo DiCarpio is freaking Laurence Olivier or John Gilgued or Robert DiNiro even? What???

2. "Cats" is the longest running, most popular and probably most profitable play ever mounted in history. It's widely loved by young and old, alike---though admittedly doesn't include chants of "vagina" or lesbian child molestation like, say, "The Vagina Monologues." Yes, intellectuals have always been in a snit about Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber's musicality, genius, and popularity. What's worse, "Cats" is derived from the work of a man who by today's standards would best be described as a conservative Christian, T.S. Eliot.

3. Lots of people don't have HBO, and never see "Sex In The City." A TELEVISION program is some measurement of being in-tune with culture? If you go down that road you could go on forever. Melrose Place? Dallas? Friends? What halfway well-adjusted adult would base ANY measurement of a person on their knowledge of a prime-time TV program?

4. Chuck Norris: I'd venture to say that his program, Texas Ranger (which I have seen maybe 45 minutes of ever) is not far behind Seinfeld in popularity and recognizability. I notice now that it's popping up all over my TV guide grid in syndication. I admit I know some religious families with pre-teens who never miss Walker Texas Ranger. It's one of the only things on TV the entire family can watch.

What's more, I have seen Norris interviewed in recent months by the likes of BOTH Howard Stern and James Dobson! THAT is pretty broad appeal. Show me ONE OTHER human being whose celebrity has a span that broad and I will eat Walker's Stetson---Norris is viewed as a commodity with appeal to STERN'S audience and also to Focus On The Family.

5. Stone Phillips. Since I renewed my cable subscription some time ago, I haven't watched Dateline, 20/20 or ANY of those lame newsmags on the networks. If you have ever watched one of the newsmags you can see where Bruni is coming from in thinking that somehow Stone Phillips is a "celebrity." Those network newsreaders think that THEY are as important as the news they read.

6. It's a slippery slope to measure another person by your own personal yardstick. HBO's "SMASH HIT" is probably viewed in, I'd guess, 1 in every 20 households. A cable "hit," but hardly ubiquitous, hardly the Super Bowl or The Final Four or even Survivor.

7. Austin Powers is on its second sequel, and has been all over the news the last week or two because of the legal wrangling over its now-nixed title, "Goldmember." AP and Reuters must think it's pretty popular if lawsuits about its TITLE are news. My point here is, Dubya is criticized for knowing obscure things, and he's criticized for knowing widely popular things. Bruni's is such a stretch it would take a contortionist to make it mean anything.

70 posted on 02/10/2002 5:19:28 PM PST by gg188
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To: Recovering_Democrat
The real question is...

Which one is Frank, and which one is Fred?

71 posted on 02/10/2002 5:22:06 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane
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To: Recovering_Democrat
yenta

What the heck is that? Some kind of bean, like blackeyed and butter and lima? Or is it some kind of weird New Age Al Goreian chant? The President and I are together on this one!

72 posted on 02/10/2002 5:24:05 PM PST by Cleburne
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To: gg188
" Lots of people don't have HBO, and never see "Sex In The City."

I make it a practice NOT to purchase HBO. No matter how they package or bundle it. I will NOT have HBO in my home.

73 posted on 02/10/2002 5:24:22 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: SC DOC
This book with it's insulting title, and probably along with an insulting cover photo will be proudly displayed in the front windows of Borders books stores across the country- and nobody will buy it. Seen it all before. Yawn.
74 posted on 02/10/2002 5:30:03 PM PST by Musket
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To: SC DOC
This book with it's insulting title, and probably along with an insulting cover photo will be proudly displayed in the front windows of Borders books stores across the country- and nobody will buy it. Seen it all before. Yawn.
75 posted on 02/10/2002 5:30:18 PM PST by Musket
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To: mel
Didn't DiCaprio pretend to be a journalist and interview clinton in the White House? I'm surprised it wasn't made into a movie. LOL!
76 posted on 02/10/2002 5:32:37 PM PST by Carolinamom
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I don't have HBO either. Personally, between basic cable programming (History Channel, A and E, Fox News, etc.) and the world of reading, news and entertainment online, I have all the viewing I can handle and still have a life away from my home theater with my laptop balanced on my knee as I recline in my easy-chair. Premium cable channels are a choice, of which there are many with programming of their own ala HBO's SITC. Two years ago, it was something else; two years from now SITC will be passe'.

What BRUNI refers to as "culture" is really FASHION. But then, that would be a typical mistake for a liberal to make.

77 posted on 02/10/2002 5:37:26 PM PST by gg188
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To: Howlin;ohiowfan;lawgirl
...he did not share the musical tastes of the counterculture. He said he liked the Beatles before their "weird, psychedelic period."

That was their best stuff! Oh well, we can't all like the same things. I love you anyway, Dubya!

78 posted on 02/10/2002 5:40:06 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Some of the best news I've heard all day!
79 posted on 02/10/2002 5:40:36 PM PST by Vision
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To: Carolinamom
DiCaprio is history, I think. What is he---the Corey Haim of 2001? His 15 minutes turned out to be about 15 seconds.

Wonder what DiCaprio banks in a movie today? My bet is that it's a fraction of, say, the Crowe fellow from "Gladiator" and "Beautiful Mind." And probably a fraction of even long-time box-office leading men like Bruce Willis. (I frankly always thought DiCaprio was a girly-boy anyway.....And my recollection of Titanic is Kate Winslett's modelling session, to be quite truthful...)

80 posted on 02/10/2002 5:41:00 PM PST by gg188
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