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Partial Birth Abortion Ban PASSED in Senate
FNC ^ | 10-21-03 | FNC

Posted on 10/21/2003 2:44:35 PM PDT by cgk

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:25 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Fox News Alert - bill is headed to Pres. Bush for his signature!

WASHINGTON

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TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: abortion; congress; law; pbaban2003
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To: pkajj
Thanks for the info, good!

201 posted on 10/22/2003 8:43:56 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: hocndoc
thanks alot, thats great.
My opinion of her is still high.
202 posted on 10/22/2003 8:44:48 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: hocndoc
But, who knew that "mother" would be a political word?

Good post. It seems to me the über-feminists made "mother" a political word when they ran them out of their own homes and away from caring for their children by shaming them. Abortion was the method to keep them out.

203 posted on 10/22/2003 9:12:11 AM PDT by cgk (Bennett / Krauthammer: "When in doubt, you MUST opt for Life")
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To: cgk
Hallelujah!
204 posted on 10/22/2003 9:17:56 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: cgk
Ugh...Oh!...We Just lost all the Rhinos for 2004...
205 posted on 10/22/2003 9:27:13 AM PDT by hosepipe
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To: cgk
Yeah! We may be only able to save 3-5% of the aborted babies, but that's 130,000-220,000 babies that won't be tortured to death.

Thanks be to God!
206 posted on 10/22/2003 10:32:25 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Ladysmith
Hey!

The culture of death has two enemies

George W and Jeb Bush!

God bless these two fine men!

207 posted on 10/22/2003 11:10:45 AM PDT by Pippin (GWB is my President!)
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To: Ladysmith
And the Culture of Death is dealt another blow! Thank you, Jeb Bush, and thank you, George W. Bush!

Most of all, thank You, Lord!! - Agreed!

208 posted on 10/22/2003 12:18:50 PM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Isn't it wonderful when life wins a couple of rounds? Yup!
209 posted on 10/22/2003 12:21:14 PM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: MitchellC
I fail to see why - if the fetus is understood to be a human being - abortion should be left up to the states. Isn't murder a federal crime?

This is not a criminal law. It's a regulation of medical procedures. In theory the federal government has no jurisdiction over such matters unless interstate commerce is involved. Then they can regulate because of the interstate commerce clause of the constitution. So to have a constitutional basis for this law, they connected it in some way to interstate commerce. This clause has been abused by liberals - including judges - over the years to have the federal government intrude on states' rights. Liberals like Ginsburg have stretched the clause to ridiculous lengths to justify such intrusions. In this case, she'll probably say the interstate commerce clause doesn't apply.

210 posted on 10/22/2003 12:41:41 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: EternalVigilance; Congressman Billybob
Just wanted to get your 2¢ on this, but it looks to me as if the SCOTUS is headed for a collision course. What I mean is that PBA ban is going to force them to define a fetus as a full human being which will give it "equal protection" under the 14th amendment. However, Roe v. Wade gave MOTHERS this same "equal protection", so we have a conflict.

IMHO, The Honorable Senator Santorum, Brownback, et. al. were very clever to make PBA only apply if the head (or torso in case of breach birth) was fully out. This forces the court to address the human/fetus issue. Yeah, I know they wrote it per the problems from the 2000 case and right-to-life lawyers were upset, but it's necessary strategery...

The SCOTUS is going to be stuck because Roe v. Wade will look the same as allowing murder to be legal in some states, but illegal in others. Thus, they won't be able to overturn Roe v. Wade, i.e., return the abortion issue to the states. Houston, we have a problem!! Solution: some kind of rushed Constitutional amendment? There's serious trouble brewing!! Hip hip hooray, but watch out!!

211 posted on 10/22/2003 12:43:34 PM PDT by Xthe17th (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/repeal17)
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To: lasereye
I see. Thanks for the reply.
212 posted on 10/22/2003 12:46:37 PM PDT by MitchellC
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To: winker
This will never happen but it should! I am for putting out a complete video.... - That's what the internet is for - go cast your net!
213 posted on 10/22/2003 12:57:45 PM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: Xthe17th
SCOTUS is going to be stuck because...

Also gonna be stuck because the only way to overturn this legislation is to say that the Interstate Commerce Clause doesn't apply. If they do this, it'll set a precedent to subject all past, present, and future legislation to this same scrutiny... which would be a good thing! It's win-win either way for Conservatives, life, and liberty!

214 posted on 10/22/2003 1:54:29 PM PDT by Xthe17th (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/repeal17)
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To: Coleus


215 posted on 10/22/2003 8:27:06 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Coleus
Let's hope the locals can get together and start saying the Rosary each day outside that clinic!

The Eugene, OR clinic was shut down because of such a prayer brigade. God bless them. I will post the link to the story in the next post.
216 posted on 11/02/2003 8:10:35 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Closure Threatens Clinic in Eugene School

Eugene Abortion Clinic Closes; Surprising Many (Hooray!!!)

217 posted on 11/02/2003 8:18:54 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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