The Curse Of The Red-Headed Mummies The Tocharians found in the Tarim Basin of China had tartan and pants in 2,000BC...4,000 miles and 1,000 years older than those found at Halstadt, Austria
Pants were invented by the Tocharians after the domestication of the horse, the oldest known pants are dated to this group.
1 posted on
02/01/2004 12:08:15 PM PST by
blam
To: farmfriend
2 posted on
02/01/2004 12:12:13 PM PST by
blam
To: blam
The kilt, I believe, was created by Hans MacSchwartzkopf.
3 posted on
02/01/2004 12:16:57 PM PST by
curmudgeonII
(Keep New Orleans green. Bring ,money when you visit.)
To: blam
Someone should notify the European Council straightaway.
To: blam
Austria claims to have invented tartan kilts oh great!. yet another claimant to that invention. the lawyers are going to be the only winners in this fight!
6 posted on
02/01/2004 12:23:13 PM PST by
the invisib1e hand
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To: blam
Austria claims to have invented tartan kilts Well I don't know about all Austrian's, but those around Vienna, Salzburg and Innsbruck drink a lot!
9 posted on
02/01/2004 12:32:29 PM PST by
HoustonCurmudgeon
(PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
To: blam
"Austria claims to have invented tartan kilts"
I think they just want to look like girls.
11 posted on
02/01/2004 1:04:59 PM PST by
fini
To: blam
HISTORY OF HIGHLAND DRESS - MAINLY THE KILT
http://www.scottish-history.com/kilt.shtml This form of dress may have existed earlier, but there is no sign of it before 1725. It is a severe shock to many people to find that the "little kilt's originator may well have been an Englishman, one Rawlinson, who was employed as the manager of an iron smelting works in Lochaber who adapted it, to allow more freedom of movement for his workers. (Probably so they could work faster being the concerned English they were). Be that as it may, it is this form of garment which is now firmly taken as being the kilt.
13 posted on
02/01/2004 1:06:56 PM PST by
DUMBGRUNT
(Sane, and have the papers to prove it!)
To: blam
I was kind of hoping this would tell what was worn UNDER the kilt.
15 posted on
02/01/2004 3:54:55 PM PST by
Maria S
("I will do whatever the Americans want…I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid." Gaddafi, 9/03)
To: farmfriend
Great posts. With respect to the article, I disagree with
"The Celts who conquered Scotland originally came from Europe, which would back our claim to have had the kilt first"Close but no cigar. The Kelys / Celts were all over Europe and probably the world. However, the Highland Scots as I understand it, are descended from the Irish Celts who invaded Scotland in the "800s", thus it is an Irish Kilt, just different clan tartans. Willing to be corrected based on facts with reference.
22 posted on
02/04/2004 3:49:03 PM PST by
Henchman
(I Hench, therefore I am!)
To: blam; sionnsar
Hahaha... I found this thread again and re-read it.
The success of the Carinthian kilt in particular has surprised even me. I am hoping to sell more in Scotland as well and in recognition of our shared Celtic past with the Scots I am making a deer leather kilt - a mixture of a tartan cloth and a pair of lederhosen."
Made out of:
(wait for it)
"Rich Carinthian leather."
24 posted on
11/27/2004 9:46:35 AM PST by
Cogadh na Sith
(--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
To: blam
"the oldest tartan authenticated was found in China 500 years before the time of Tutankhanum"
Gee, I'm surprised the record survives. [rimshot!]
26 posted on
11/27/2004 8:02:38 PM PST by
SunkenCiv
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27 posted on
11/27/2004 8:03:06 PM PST by
SunkenCiv
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To: blam
28 posted on
11/27/2004 8:05:03 PM PST by
Fiddlstix
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