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To: blam
Homo-propaganda.

They are seeking a secular excuse to justify their marriage re-definition.

Propaganda is in overdrive.

This is to define opposition to homosexual marraige as a religion thing. This is not true.

It is also true this is not a ban on homosexual marriage. This is codifying WHAT MARRIAGE IS. the FMA also precludes pedofilia marriage, incest marriage, and polygamy. not just homosexual marriage.

as to the CE and and BCE. That PC cr*p has been going on in Universities for some time. From the same people who want to outlaw all Christ in Christmas.
5 posted on 02/29/2004 4:50:28 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
I don't see anything in regard to homosexuality or homosexual marriage in this article. Did I overlook something?

This sort of extended family is certainly more common in rural than urban households, but it has nothing to do with homosexual marriage. A certain segment of Roman society, aping the upper class Greeks, did countenance relationships with a catamite, but a casual reading of, say, Suetonius, will demonstrate that the Romans did NOT look on it kindly and would never have permitted marriage. I faintly remember a scandalous story (and it may have been in Suetonius) about some extremely femme Roman young buck going through the form of marriage with his boy toy, but it wasn't valid and it was held up as an example of how low the morals of the upper class had sunk . . .

14 posted on 02/29/2004 5:06:48 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: longtermmemmory
It is hardly "Homo propaganda." Roman families often contained non biological members through the very common insitution of adoption due to high mortality rates. Even adults were adopted into other families. The Patron- client system of Roman life also fed this notion of a greater family- the number of "clients" a family had was a measure of it's power and prestiege. Many such "clients" were adopted. And this bond was just as real as blood relations to the Romans. Often- heirs of a family fortune were not blood related but an adoptee.

Gauis Octavius- better known as Emporer Augustus was the adopted son and heir of Julius Ceaser.

As for the CE and BCE PC idiocy- they tried to pull that off for a while but I don't see it used much anymore.
19 posted on 02/29/2004 5:25:02 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: longtermmemmory
How much of this justification will we have to put up with.....
20 posted on 02/29/2004 5:27:08 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: longtermmemmory
Homo-propaganda.

Beat me to it.

23 posted on 02/29/2004 5:27:55 PM PST by Yeti
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To: longtermmemmory; irv; blam
Actually, the origins of CE/BCE are Jewish scholarship with its use started at least in the 19th Century. Since Jews consider Jesus neither "the anointed one" or "Our Lord," it is considered inappropriate to use those terms. The use spread through academia, particularly through Jewish scholars in it.

It may be P.C. now, but it wasn't a recently invented academic term.
32 posted on 02/29/2004 5:40:25 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: longtermmemmory
I don't see the connection from extended family to gay marriage, but I hardly call this discovery groundbreaking. It is well known that the Roman family included adopted slaves and other domestic help. Also Roman concepts of marriage were remarkably similar to ours, including such customs as the wedding ring worn on the middle finger of the left hand and carrying the bride over the threshold.
40 posted on 02/29/2004 6:03:47 PM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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