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Lack of Females May Have Done in Dinosaurs
Oddy Enough - Reuters ^ | 2004-04-21

Posted on 04/21/2004 11:45:26 AM PDT by Junior

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An asteroid may have wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago not simply by changing the world's climate and causing years of dark skies, but also by causing too many of them to be born male, U.S. and British researchers say.

If dinosaurs were like modern-day reptiles such as crocodiles, they change sex based on temperature, David Miller of the University of Leeds in Britain and colleagues noted Tuesday. And even a small skewing of populations toward males would have led to eventual extinction.

Most experts agree that one or more asteroid impacts probably triggered a series of global changes that killed off the dinosaurs and many other species of life on Earth. The impacts would have kicked up dust that cooled the air and also triggered volcanic activity that would have created even more dust and ash.

No one really knows if dinosaurs were more like reptiles, or something closer to mammals. Reptiles have very different metabolisms than mammals and also have various ways of determining the sex of offspring.

In mammals, if a baby gets an X and a Y chromosome, it will be male and if it gets two X chromosomes it will be female, with a few very rare exceptions. Similar mechanisms work for birds, snakes and some reptiles such as lizards.

But in crocodilians, turtles and some fish, the temperature at which eggs are incubated can affect the sex of the developing babies.

Miller's team ran an analysis that showed a temperature shift could theoretically have led to a preponderance of males. Other studies have shown that when there are too few females, eventually the population dies out.

"The earth did not become so toxic that life died out 65 million years ago; the temperature just changed, and these great beasts had not evolved a genetic mechanism (like our Y chromosome) to cope with that," said Dr. Sherman Silber, an infertility expert in St. Louis who worked on the study.

But crocodiles and turtles had already evolved at the time of the great extinction 65 million years ago. How did they survive?

"These animals live at the intersection of aquatic and terrestrial environments, in estuarine waters and river beds, which might have afforded some protection against the more extreme effects of environmental change, hence giving them more time to adapt," the researchers wrote.

 


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1 posted on 04/21/2004 11:45:27 AM PDT by Junior
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To: PatrickHenry; VadeRetro; Piltdown_Woman; RadioAstronomer; Ichneumon
Ping.
2 posted on 04/21/2004 11:46:35 AM PDT by Junior (Remember, you are unique, just like everyone else.)
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To: Junior
Miller's team ran an analysis that showed a temperature shift could theoretically have led to a preponderance of males. Other studies have shown that when there are too few females, eventually the population dies out.

Then one would expect that all reptilians would have died out, and not just dinosaurs.

3 posted on 04/21/2004 11:48:20 AM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: dirtboy
I would have though so, too. Fortunately, the good doctors answered the question at the end of the piece:

But crocodiles and turtles had already evolved at the time of the great extinction 65 million years ago. How did they survive?

"These animals live at the intersection of aquatic and terrestrial environments, in estuarine waters and river beds, which might have afforded some protection against the more extreme effects of environmental change, hence giving them more time to adapt," the researchers wrote.

4 posted on 04/21/2004 11:50:13 AM PDT by Junior (Remember, you are unique, just like everyone else.)
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To: Junior
No, no, no, no. Its BushFault
5 posted on 04/21/2004 11:51:17 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Junior
They had women. They just had headaches too often. It also didn't help that the male dinosaurs answered wrong when asked by the female if her hips were too wide.
6 posted on 04/21/2004 11:51:33 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Junior
It wasn't that there were too few females, it's just that too many dinosaurs were gay.
7 posted on 04/21/2004 11:53:19 AM PDT by Alouette (Gaza -- Too small to be a country, too large to be an insane asylum)
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To: Junior
what? all the female ones were aborted?
8 posted on 04/21/2004 11:54:20 AM PDT by kallisti (the fastest way to end a war is to lose it)
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To: dirtboy
Then one would expect that all reptilians would have died out, and not just dinosaurs.

I'm assuming you didn't read the whole article:

But crocodiles and turtles had already evolved at the time of the great extinction 65 million years ago. How did they survive?

etc.

9 posted on 04/21/2004 11:54:41 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Got some dirt on my shoulder -- could you brush it off for me?)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Yep. Either that, or the far left factions of reptiles allowed for homosexual T-rex's, stegasaurus, and brontos to marry each other......the rest is history...as they say.
10 posted on 04/21/2004 11:55:16 AM PDT by GoredInMich
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To: Junior
Lack of females would do me in, too.
11 posted on 04/21/2004 11:56:22 AM PDT by NCPAC
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To: NCPAC
There was one female left, the males jumped off very high cliffs trying to impress her.
12 posted on 04/21/2004 11:59:05 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: JohnnyZ
I disagree with the accessment. Crododilians, after all, lay their eggs out of water and rely on the sun to incubate them.

My take on the extinction of the dinosaurs? It wasn't an extinction. Megafauna dinosaur forms died out, but birds, the small fauna form of dinosaurs, survived and thrived, and mammals took over the megafauna niches.

14 posted on 04/21/2004 12:04:08 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: Junior
2 problems with this theory:

1. Current data suggests dinosaur physiology to be more like that of modern birds, and
2. Large reptiles, like crocodiles, survived.

I think that I remember seeing a program where a major paleontologist commented on the declining diversity amoung dinosaur species BEFORE the asteriod impact event 65 million years ago. I guess that science writers can't get past their disaster-theory -- Just easier to sell to us poor, dumb, ignorant masses.

15 posted on 04/21/2004 12:06:50 PM PDT by Tallguy (Cannot rate this Reserve Freepers fitness: Not observed on this thread.)
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To: dirtboy
Liberals, like the dinosaurs they are, often eat their young.
16 posted on 04/21/2004 12:07:12 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: GoredInMich
Either that, or the far left factions of reptiles allowed for homosexual T-rex's

All T-rex's look gay. I mean, what's up with those arms?

17 posted on 04/21/2004 12:08:44 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray for our patriot armed forces in harm's way - and the families awaiting their safe return)
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To: Junior
Other studies have shown that when there are too few females, eventually the population dies out.

A brilliant insight, right up there with "When people are out of work, unemployment results."

18 posted on 04/21/2004 12:11:25 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Junior
Feminists beware: lack of practicing females might doom the human race.

19 posted on 04/21/2004 12:11:43 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: glock rocks
All T-rex's look gay. I mean, what's up with those arms?

ROFL!!!

Man thats funny.

20 posted on 04/21/2004 12:13:37 PM PDT by No Blue States
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