Posted on 05/22/2004 7:43:29 PM PDT by Maurice1962
Operation 2008 also assumes that Republicans will not have a great candidate in five years. In fact, the Republican Party is producing an arsenal of powerful campaigners, including conservative candidates who are members of traditionally Democrat minorities. Consider, for example, what a potent candidate Herman Cain would make in 2008, if he is elected to the Senate in 2004 as an attractive, articulate black conservative Republican from Georgia?
The favorite today may well be Jeb Bush. Americans like political families, Floridians like Jeb Bush, and Jeb's wife, who is Mexican, will not just help win Hispanic voters, but more specifically Mexican voters, who will be a potent force in California and other states. If national security remains the principal concern of Americans, continuity in administration would have great appeal (FDR won two extra presidential elections for precisely this reason).
Bush-Cain 2008 How dynamic would a Jeb Bush - Herman Cain ticket be? This dream ticket would garner all the people who love President Bush and it would also pull in black and Hispanic voters who were otherwise ambivalent toward Republican candidates.
The polarizing effect of Hillary in such a race would be entirely negative. Many people would vote for Jeb and many people would vote against Hillary, but those who opposed Jeb and supported Hillary - a small part of the electorate - would not be influenced at all.
According to http://dict.org it isn't a word. Me things he my be a reject from du.
Yet another pro abortion republican.
Yep....in 1963 it looked like JFK, RFK, and then, God help us, Teddy.
Two Bushes is enough....new blood and all that.
Because it's saturday night and whatifs like this are fun? Not every thing has to be 100% productive ;->inilation
In 2008, we'd have had eight years of GOP control - and all the little things that irritate us will be forefront in our minds.
We might do better to have a Democrat take the White House, so long as we retain control of Congress.
To remind people of just how loathsome they are.
The favorite today may well be Jeb Bush
No way. Not even close. Whoever is selected had better be as electable as Hillary Clinton or we can kiss this nation goodbye. I favor Rudi Giuliani myself. He has national recognition..favorable recognition and can beat Hillary.
Why do you think Jeb Bush is less electable than Hillary?
Guilliani, although admirable for his work after 9/11 and in cleaning up NYC, could not be nominated as a Republican. The base will not nominate a pro-abortion candidate.
I, as a Christian, could not vote for a pro-abortion candidate, even if Satan were running against him. To vote for a pro-abortion candidate is to support their views, which I cannot.
Politically, this makes no sense, but morally it is sensible. I must not support one evil to defeat another. God is above all and triumphs over the evil of man. We cannot control the actions of others, but can control our own, and we must not do or support evil.
I tell you what---Haley Barbour would be the best communicator the GOP has had at it's help since, well, the Great Communicator himself.
He's well-spoken and would have over a term in office under his belt (just like the current Prez). Plus, his experience as RNC Chair makes him adept at raising cash and gives him built-in good will among party faithful.
You know, Democrats aren't the only ones who can nominate governors from rural Southern states and win.
What a truly interesting idea.
Haley's best quality--can think on his feet and get to the heart of the matter--doesn't give the Dem's an inch in debate and won't be rolled over.
vaudine
Rudy would support the partial birth abortion ban, parental notification, and other issues on the vanguard of the abortion debate in the modern era.
The 'should abortion be legal' front was lost by our side in the early 1970s. Abortion on demand isn't going away in our lifetimes. A guy like Rudy would stay the course and be on the right side of the 2008 issues (even if he is on the wrong side of the 1973 issue).
The pro life movement needs to get a real grip and realize that they dropped the ball and lost the battle in the early 1970s. The other side changed peoples minds about abortion, and what followed is 1,400,000 abortions a year, I think.
See, if they didn't change people's minds, regardless of legality, the number of abortions wouldn't be so high. Plain and simple.
Pro-life activists should concentrate on public activism to change minds about abortion. Only then can serious change on the political landscape. This is a generational goal, but the best strategy we have.
Overturning Roe v Wade would not make abortion illegal nationally, it would just leave it up to the states. Guess what? Peoples minds are different now on the matter than they were in 1943 and even in 1973. After some shakeup, most states would still have legal abortions, and the abortion number would still be around 1.4 million a year, like it is now.
The object of the political game is to get political power, maintain it, and use it to effect positive change, or otherwise protect the status quo. Staying home and not supporting an otherwise fine candidate because he or she is pro choice (but on the right side of what matters most on the current political landscape, including the 2004/2008 abortion issues ) does none of the above.
I am pro life and practical - abortion flatly will not be illegal in the USA in our lifetime, not while too many menopausal senior citizens, UPS-Guy flirting soccer moms, and their slutty teenage and college-age daughters are steadfastly convinced it's their god-given right. They will fight like hell to maintain the status quo, and they will win, given the public opinion today.
Channel the energy in the pro life movement to changing peoples minds on the subject - if everyone in the pro life movement could sucessfully convert one person a year to the cause, our numbers would grow dramatically. Polls showing most americans do not favor abortion are deceptive - the fact is that those for it tend to be much more passionate and dedicated than the people against it, and the people against it are not so much against it as to strongly favor changing the status quo. Take no solace in those polls.
Frankly the indignant 'all or nothing' voters on this issue are hopelessly naive - in abstaining they help an 'Abortions R Us' candidate get votes, yet sleep soundly out of a sense of moral superiority that they didn't vote for the pro-choice person, but helped get a more rabidly pro choice person elected. With thinking like that its amazing they manage to get home every friday with their paychecks intact and not fallen victim to a 3-Card Monte game, or bought some magic beans.
I expect such a self-centered aproach from the holier-than-thou garden variety liberal, but not in our ranks.
Haley needs to get some of those numbers up where Mississippi is the 50th state I suspect, to really get traction. If he has a story to tell, he will definitely be in the hunt. He has time to make the story, but Mississippi has been 50th in so many departments for so long, that it won't be easy.
prisoner6
And you're supposed to be a teacher? Go back and check your spelling.
LOL!
Condoleeza Rice is PRO-abortion? You're sure of that?
If so, bummer!
I like Dr Rice but the 'Cult of Condi' needs to relax a bit. Outside of standing next to Dubya and carrying his bags, and the fact that she appears to be a conservative black women, I don't get all the fawning over her.
It's premature and based on some kind of mass hypnosis or something.
They loss of congress in '94 wasw a direct result of the rejection of old liberal politics. Immediately after the GOP sweep, Clinton move straight to the center, co-opting a lot of the GOP platform (spending control, Welfare Reform, crime). But the rest of the party has failed since then because they don't really have a platform anymore. Rush Limbaugh constantly brings this point up on his show.
Jeb is a proven leader and nowhere was there ever a greater friend of the 2nd Amendment. Every pro-gun initiative floated by Marion Hammers group The Unified Sportsment of florida has been supported and passed. Every anti-gun proposal has been killed. I know Jeb personally from long before he was governor. He is absolutely more conservative than his brother. Although I disagree with his stance on drilling for oil off the coast of florida, I understand the politics behind his reasoning.
Jeb and Condi Rice would be an unbeatable pair for 2008. Jeb leaves office in 2006 (~sigh~ I'm going to miss e-mailing him). The thing to watch is his fundraising activities within the six months after that event. If he's raising money from the big fish, he's going for the gold.
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