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they are not talking about about the tunguska comet strike of 1906 that flatened hundreds of miles of forest but rather a much smaller recent event last year that flatened about forty miles of forest
1 posted on 06/13/2004 3:24:50 PM PDT by ckilmer
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2 posted on 06/13/2004 3:26:39 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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"...a much smaller recent event last year ..."
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The article you posted is a year old (2003-03-18),
and the metrorite strike was in 2002.
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"...in the north-east of the Russian Irkutsk region on September 25, 2002..."


3 posted on 06/13/2004 3:29:30 PM PDT by DefCon
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they are not talking about about the tunguska comet strike of 1906

June 30th. 1908 and was most likely an asteroid not a comet.

4 posted on 06/13/2004 3:30:32 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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2003-03-18?


5 posted on 06/13/2004 3:30:40 PM PDT by maquiladora
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Tuesday, 8 October, 2002, 11:05 GMT 12:05 UK
Cash plea for space impact study
Asteroid impact: BBC

Scientists investigating what is believed to be a "significant" fresh meteoroid impact crater in a remote part of Siberia are begging for funds to mount an expedition.

A British meteorite expert has called on the international community to help Russian researchers get to the impact site, which may be of major scientific importance.


It is imperative that US and UK funding bodies to support our Russian colleagues in their investigation of the Siberian impact

Benny Peiser, John Moores University, Liverpool
Hunters in the region say they have seen a large crater surrounded by burned forest.

Vladimir Polyakov, of the Institute of Solar and Terrestrial Physics in Moscow, said: Specialists have no doubt that it is a meteorite that fell into the taiga on Thursday."

Middle-power Earthquake

Polyakov says there were more than 100 eyewitnesses to the event.

He added that scientists believed them. He said instruments rarely recorded the impacts of meteoroids and so eyewitnesses were practically the only source of information for such events.

Kirill Levi, vice-director of the Earth Crust Institute in Siberia, said: "The seismic monitoring station located near the event site recorded the moment of impact recording seismic waves comparable to a middle-power earthquake."

Vladimir Polyakov added that it was impossible to send a state-funded expedition to the site, which lies in Bodaibo district, Irkutsk region, without approval from the Meteorite Studies Center in Moscow.

Bodaibo residents say they witnessed the fall of a very large, luminous body, which looked like a huge boulder.

No funds

Scientists in Irkutsk have sent a report to Moscow along with a request for funds to mount an expedition but have had no reply.

Benny Peiser, of Liverpool John Moores University, UK, said: "We appear to be dealing with a significant impact event."

He told BBC News Online: "It is imperative that US and UK funding bodies support our Russian colleagues in their investigation of the Siberian impact.

"The resources required for sending a scientific expedition to the epicentre of the event would be very moderate but could yield vital information about the impact threat that concerns every citizen of the world."

See also:

11 Dec 98 | Science/Nature
17 Dec 97 | Science/Nature
31 Jan 00 | Science/Nature
Internet links:


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Links to more Science/Nature stories are at the foot of the page.



6 posted on 06/13/2004 3:36:31 PM PDT by ckilmer
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Search Is On In Siberia For Big, Mysterious Vitimsky Meteorite
By rickyjames, Section News
Posted on Wed Mar 19th, 2003 at 08:45:48 PM PST

Astronomy As reported in yesterday's Pravda, now that Spring is coming to Siberia the search is on for a meteorite that fell 700 mikes from Irkutsk in Siberia on September 25 of last year in or near the wildlife preserve of Vitimsky on the Vitim River. This was no typical meteorite fall. The illumination brightness of the incoming nighttime meteor was very high and even painful to look at according to eyewitnesses. Because of the clouds, there were virtually no sightings of the bolide itself along the path of its flight; only a few observations described a “sphere with a tail”. Witnesses at the nearby Mama airport reported that the filament lamps of the chandelier there glowed to half their intensity at the time of the bolide's flight, although the entire settlement was devoid of electrical power supply that night. Others saw a bright luminescence at the upper ends of thin little wood poles of the fence surrounding the airport's meteorological ground. All this was tens of kilometers from the flight path of the incoming meteorite. The explosion yield of the meteoroid was significant and the shock wave was felt up to 50 km away. Initial reports stated the path of the bolide was tracked by a US Air Force satellite (you can translate that here or just read it in English here), and this track will provide initial search pattern coordinates for the current search for the actual meteorite. Somehow an American spy satellite providing guidence for a Russian search in Siberia for an extraterrestrial object is perhaps the most unusual aspect of all in this story.


7 posted on 06/13/2004 3:39:02 PM PDT by ckilmer
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All the cool stuff happens in Siberia. (MY neighborhood never gets flattened by meteorites).


8 posted on 06/13/2004 3:40:07 PM PDT by asgardshill
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...about forty miles of forest

Forty square miles?
A path forty miles long?
An area 40 miles by 40 miles?

9 posted on 06/13/2004 3:40:52 PM PDT by curmudgeonII (Time wounds all heels.)
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To: aculeus; general_re; dead
The night was rather dull in the north-east of the Russian Irkutsk region on September 25, 2002.

Bulwer-Lyttonski alert.

11 posted on 06/13/2004 3:43:58 PM PDT by dighton
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To: ckilmer

Alex Krychek, please call your office.


14 posted on 06/13/2004 3:44:31 PM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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*

CCNet 50/2003 - 7 June 2003
---------------------------


"If it had hit Central London, Britain would no longer have a capital
city. The force of the meteorite that hit eastern Siberia last September
destroyed 40 square miles of forest and caused earth tremors felt 60
miles away."
--Robin Shepherd, The Times, 7 June 2003


(1) METEORITE CRASH SITE FOUND IN SIBERIA

(2) LARGE METEORITE FRAGMENTS FOUND IN SIBERIA

(3) SIBERIA METEORITE FLATTENS 40 SQ MILES

(4) CASH PLEA FOR SPACE IMPACT STUDY


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(1) METEORITE CRASH SITE FOUND IN SIBERIA

Inferfax, 6 June 2003
http://www.interfax.ru/one_news_en.html?lang=EN&tz=0&tz_format=MSK&id_news=5642068

IRKUTSK. June 6 (Interfax) - The crash site of a gigantic meteorite,
Vitim, that hit Earth in September has been discovered in the Irkutsk
region.

An expedition from the Kosmopoisk scientific organization found an area
of about 100 square kilometers covered with burnt trees and pieces of
the meteorite 60 kilometers from the village of Mama, Alexander Bogun,
deputy head of the district administration, told Interfax on Friday.

The meteorite fell in the early hours of September 25, 2002, between the
town of Bodaibo and the village of Balakhninsky near the Vitim River.
The incident caused strong tremors in the region, similar to those of an
earthquake. Sporadic flashes of light were seen over the crash site.

The expedition members said that this is the second largest meteorite,
after the famous Tunguska meteorite, to fall on Russian territory.

Copyright 2003, Interfax

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(2) LARGE METEORITE FRAGMENTS FOUND IN SIBERIA

RIA Novosti, 6 June 2003

MOSCOW, JUNE 6 (RIA NOVOSTI CORRESPONDENT EDUARD PUZYREV) - The site and
fragments of a large meteorite which fell on the earth in September 2002
had been found in Siberia, said the Russian Academy of Sciences on
Friday.

"Prospectors from the Kosmopoisk expedition have spotted a
100,000-square-kilometer (sic) part of the taiga with burnt and fallen
trees. It is found 60 kilometers from the Mama village near the Vitim
river," said the academy.

The precise coordinates have been fixed only now because deep snow
hindered work before.

Now scientists can get down to a more detailed study of the meteorite.
The first fragments of the celestial body have already been found.

When the meteorite was falling, people in many places near the Bodaibo
and Mama villages felt earth tremors as in an earthquake. They also
"heard roar and splashes of light above the taiga forest far away." The
passage of "a large luminous object" in the terrestrial atmosphere was
also registered by American satellites.

The Russian Academy of Sciences does not rule out that, after the 1908
fall of the Tunguska meteorite, the new one can be the largest of
meteorites which have fallen on earth over the last 95 years.

Copyright 2003, RIA Novosti

==============
(3) SIBERIA METEORITE FLATTENS 40 SQ MILES

The Times, 7 June 2003
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-705280,00.html

From Robin Shepherd in Moscow
 
IF IT had hit Central London, Britain would no longer have a capital
city. The force of the meteorite that hit eastern Siberia last September
destroyed 40 square miles of forest and caused earth tremors felt 60
miles away.

An expedition from Russia's Kosmopoisk institute has only recently
reached the site in a remote area north of Lake Baikal because of bad
weather and difficult terrain, the Interfax news agency said yesterday.

Fragments of the meteorite had apparently exploded into shrapnel 18
miles above the Earth with the force of at least 200 tonnes of TNT.

At the time, Russian media reported that villagers 60 miles away had
witnessed a gigantic fireball screeching down from the sky, causing
windows to rattle and house lights to swing as they were hit by blast
waves on September 25. There were no reported casualties.
 
Copyright 2003, The Times

=============
(4) CASH PLEA FOR SPACE IMPACT STUDY

BBC News Online, 8 October 2002
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2309117.stm

By Dr David Whitehouse
BBC News Online science editor 
 
Scientists investigating what is believed to be a "significant" fresh
meteoroid impact crater in a remote part of Siberia are begging for
funds to mount an expedition.

A British meteorite expert has called on the international community to
help Russian researchers get to the impact site, which may be of major
scientific importance.

Hunters in the region say they have seen a large crater surrounded by
burned forest.

Vladimir Polyakov, of the Institute of Solar and Terrestrial Physics in
Moscow, said: Specialists have no doubt that it is a meteorite that fell
into the taiga on Thursday."

Middle-power Earthquake

Polyakov says there were more than 100 eyewitnesses to the event.

He added that scientists believed them. He said instruments rarely
recorded the impacts of meteoroids and so eyewitnesses were practically
the only source of information for such events.

Kirill Levi, vice-director of the Earth Crust Institute in Siberia,
said: "The seismic monitoring station located near the event site
recorded the moment of impact recording seismic waves comparable to a
middle-power earthquake."

Vladimir Polyakov added that it was impossible to send a state-funded
expedition to the site, which lies in Bodaibo district, Irkutsk region,
without approval from the Meteorite Studies Center in Moscow.

Bodaibo residents say they witnessed the fall of a very large, luminous
body, which looked like a huge boulder.

No funds

Scientists in Irkutsk have sent a report to Moscow along with a request
for funds to mount an expedition but have had no reply.

Benny Peiser, of Liverpool John Moores University, UK, said: "We appear
to be dealing with a significant impact event."

He told BBC News Online: "It is imperative that US and UK funding bodies
support our Russian colleagues in their investigation of the Siberian
impact.

"The resources required for sending a scientific expedition to the
epicentre of the event would be very moderate but could yield vital
information about the impact threat that concerns every citizen of the
world."


18 posted on 06/13/2004 3:52:48 PM PDT by ckilmer
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If the meteorite had a greater speed, for example, 25 kilometers per hour

I think I can run faster than that. I know I can bike faster than that.

23 posted on 06/13/2004 3:57:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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If satellites were able to detect the object at leat twice (at 62 km and 30 km altitude), then surely they have a record of its direction of travel. That, and a little math can narrow down the area of impact (if any) to a relatively small area.


31 posted on 06/13/2004 4:05:48 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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...Interesting, save this for after dinner. Thanks fer ther post, good on yer...


33 posted on 06/13/2004 4:06:29 PM PDT by gargoyle
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Bet that made a few bears sh** in the woods...


37 posted on 06/13/2004 4:16:58 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Ronald Reagan - Greatest President of the 20th Century.)
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It's all George W. Bush's fault and there are definite links to the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Those nasty Republicans planned this event. Bill and Hillary told me so... See major headlines on the alphabet tv media....
51 posted on 06/13/2004 4:58:30 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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Weird rusting sounds could be heard.

I've often wondered what kind of sound rust makes.
57 posted on 06/13/2004 5:23:21 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Liberalism is the end result of too many people peeing in the gene pool.)
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It might be impossible to find a 60 ton meteorite. First, it's not very big. Second, it might have struck the ground lightly so there was no crater and the meteorite is just partly buried. Third it might have struck a pond and is not visible at all.

Kersplush!

67 posted on 06/13/2004 7:18:09 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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"If the meteorite had a greater speed, for example, 25 kilometers per hour, it is possible to assume that there were only several kilograms left of the space object."

Chances are it'd never had caught up with the earth - unless it just simply got in the way.

68 posted on 06/13/2004 7:19:04 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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Interesting, but the title is annoyingly redundant. It sounds like baby talk. Meteorite Fell Down in Siberia , as opposed to falling up?
77 posted on 06/15/2004 9:47:02 AM PDT by Eva
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