Future not so bright for Iran's [Zoroastrians]

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[Simcha7]

Shalom...Again

Freedom44,

Regarding your post # 5.

The Magi (during the time of JESUS' Birth) were NOT Zoroastrian.

They were Chaldeans, and were influenced by Judaism from the time of the Great Exile of the Jews to Babylon centuries before.

This is Why they knew the Hebrew Scriptures and The Prophecies concerning the details and place of HIS Birth:

The City of DAVID...Beit L'echem...The HOUSE OF BREAD.

Yeshua/Jesus is: THE BREAD OF LIFE.

[freedom44]

Magi is a historical documented word for Zoroastrian Priest.

The three men were Magi.

[freedom44]

Yeah it's not very hard to tell the difference between Iranians and surrounding countries in the mid-east. Iranians are generally much lighter skinned, and have different facial structure -nose, chin, jaw.

There are some parts of Iran like Kuzekstan which borders Iraq where the people are generally darker and look more Arabic, but in general the people have a different look than Arabs.

[Siamese Princess]

Yeah it's not very hard to tell the difference between Iranians and surrounding countries in the mid-east. Iranians are generally much lighter skinned, and have different facial structure -nose, chin, jaw.

There are some parts of Iran like Kuzekstan which borders Iraq where the people are generally darker and look more Arabic, but in general the people have a different look than Arabs.

Iran is an empire -- barely half the population is ethnically Persian. The Kurds are also an Indo-European people. The Azerbaijanis are related to the Turks. There are also Arabs, Baluchistanis, Armenians, etc. There is an independence movement among Iranian Azerbaijanis. I don't know what the Iranian Kurds think about independence.

[Cronos]

they are nearly extinct, down to barely 100,000 people. This should serve as a warning toChristians, Jews, Hindus etc. about what happens when the cult attacks.

[Cronos]

I'm not so sure they actually worshipped Ahriman, as much as acknowledged his (it's? ) existence and influence on the lives of humanity..

No, they don't worship the devil Ahriman.

[Cronos]

I think that the name "Iran" is derived from "Aryan."

That is correct. However, the Aryans did not come from Europe, they came from the triangle of north western India-Eastern Persia and southern Central Asia. They moved out of these places to form the Hittite Empire and then westwards to conquer Europe from the inhabitants (remnants of which can be found amongs the Basques, Finnish and Ugaritic speakers)

[Cronos]

The very term Aryan is derived from the Sanskrit-IRani word "arya" meaning nobleman/gentleman

[Cronos]

MAzda does mean light.

[Cronos]

If Iran returns to Zoroastrianism,t hat would be the turning point for the war onIslam

[Cronos]

The Magi (during the time of JESUS' Birth) were NOT Zoroastrian. They were Chaldeans, and were influenced by Judaism from the time of the Great Exile of the Jews to Babylon centuries before.

Well, to be honest, you can't prove it either way. However, the term "Magi" is from the Persian name for a Zoroastrian priest. The Magi could have been Chaldeans (from Iraq). However, the IRaqis were mostly Zoroastrian at that time.

[Cronos]

The Azerbaijanis are related to the Turks.

You are wrong. Azeris, Kurds, Tajiks etc. are all Irani peoples. Uzbeks, Turkmen, Kazakhs , Turks are all turkic-Mongol peoples.

[Fabozz]

I've always wondered if Mazda got it's name from Ahura Mazda.

Wonder no more: Yes it did.

[FITZ]

I read that the Zoroastrian priests were astrologers who studied the stars and that's why they followed the moving star to Bethelem. And Magi was a term used for their priests who were considered to be wise men.

At any rate it is a religion that was more suited to the Persians.

[O.C. - Old Cracker]

What other monotheistic religion adopted this concept?

[Siamese Princess]

I checked my dictionary and the internet earlier, Cronos. The Kurds are closely related to the Persians and ultimately both the Kurdish and Persian tongues are ultimately derived from the original language called Indo-European. So are Sanskrit, Slovak and Spanish. The Azeris, on the other hand, are Turkic. Also, the Indo-European language is currently thought to have originated in what we now call Ukraine and spread by nomads and invaders. The mother Indo-European tongue bore many daughters, including Indo-Iranian, which in turn bore Iranian, which bore Kurdish, Persian and Baluchi, among others.

This is a dumb post.

[Drammach]

What other monotheistic religion adopted this concept?

Judaism and Islam, and Christianity..and others, I guess..
The principles of Good and Evil
The triumph of Good
Ressurection of the Dead..
Eventual Paradise on Earth..

Ahura Mazda is the principle diety, creator of all things Good..
Ahriman is the destructive principle of Greed; Anger; and Darkness...

Was once the official religion of three major world empires.. ( the 6th century B.C. "world".)

While Judaism existed prior to Zoroastrianism, it adopted the idea of opposition between good and evil, and the symbol of Satan, as a figure in opposition to G-d..
It adopted the concept of a paradise as well, and it's opposite, Hell..
This opposition, and the clear delineation between Good and Evil helped support the concept of adherence to G-d's laws, and assisted in the incorporation of many Mesopotamian religious myths, allegories, and teachings into the Jewish religion.. (i.e., Genisis, the creation myths, etc..)

[SunkenCiv]

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