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To: blam
However, other linguists have argued that "papa", "dada" and "mama" are common in many languages simply because they are the first noises made by babbling babies.

If "papa", "dada" and "mama" were only common in languages because they are the first noises made by babbling babies... then the meaning would tend to random I.E. Papa and Dada would be found to mean Mother as often as Father and conversely Mama would be found be Father as often as Papa and Dada

If they are found to have a fixed meaning in most languages I.E. Mama as seem to always be for Mother Papa and Dada always is Father…. The would point to a common language root

6 posted on 07/21/2004 7:33:29 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: tophat9000

That was kind of what I was thinking.


16 posted on 07/22/2004 2:58:01 AM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: tophat9000

This could explain where homosexuals got their start when they could tell there mother from their fathers.


17 posted on 07/22/2004 4:51:42 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.)
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To: tophat9000
... then the meaning would tend to random Good point. You're very astute.
21 posted on 07/22/2004 10:06:15 AM PDT by Marie (I'm your huckleberry...)
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To: tophat9000
the meaning would tend to random

...unless there were some other constant involved, such as the sounds a baby makes when nursing; i.e "mama" or similar. That would tend to create a bias towards mama being assigned to the mother, leaving "papa" or "dada" to be assigned to the father.

26 posted on 07/22/2004 12:45:37 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier)
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To: tophat9000

Ma or ma-ma for mother is simply the first sound a baby tends to make and the first association is the mother's breast, thus the word "mammary" in English and Mama.


32 posted on 07/22/2004 7:32:54 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: tophat9000
I.E. Papa and Dada would be found to mean Mother as often as Father and conversely Mama would be found be Father as often as Papa and Dada

Perhaps not. Ma is the probable sound when baby is nuzzling at the breast.

33 posted on 07/22/2004 7:34:53 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: tophat9000

If the first babbling is ma-ma-ma that would bias it towards the mother, because Daddy is rather unlikely to be suckling the child.


34 posted on 07/22/2004 7:36:27 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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