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2003 Pakistani-Saudi defence Pact Bears Fruit
www.defensenews.com | 10/25/04

Posted on 10/28/2004 11:42:40 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

2003 Pakistani-Saudi Pact Bears Fruit

Trainer Jets Delivered

By RIAD KAHWAJI, DUBAI

Pakistan has delivered the first of 20 training jets to Saudi Arabia, the first fruit of a 2003 defense cooperation pact between the Islamic nations.Signed early last year, the accord paved the way for the Royal Saudi Air Force’s purchase of 20 Super Mushhak aircraft, built by Pakistani Aeronautical Complex and slated for delivery by year’s end, a Pakistan official said.

The pact also covers a major land forces modernization package, defense industrial technology, troop training and possibly naval vessels, an industry source said. Next year, Pakistan will start delivering Al-Khalid tanks to the Saudi Army, according to press reports quoting Pakistani Maj. Gen. Ali Baz. Neither Baz nor Saudi officials would give the value or size of the deals. Manufactured by Pakistan’s Heavy Industries Taxila, the Al-Khalid is based on the T-90 2M, a Chinese version of the Russian T-90, and uses Ukrainian engines and a Chinese-designed 125mm gun. Pakistan’s Army began taking delivery of Al-Khalids in September, accepting the first 42 of a 300-tank order.

An analyst in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia’s capital, who follows Pakistani defense issues, said the land forces deal was worth about $1.2 billion, and included 65 tanks, up to 400 M113 Al Hamza armored infantry fighting vehicles and a number of SAKB armored command carriers and support vehicles. About 250 of the Al Hamzas will be armed with Baktar Shikan wire-guided anti-armor missile launchers and up to 5,000 missiles, both built by Kahuta Research Laboratory, the analyst said. The analyst said most of this equipment would be used by a Pakistan Army armored brigade slated to be deployed in Saudi Arabia from 2005 through 2009.

A Western industry official said the two nations also had been talking for more than a year about a potential Saudi purchase of diesel-powered Agosta 90B submarines built by Pakistan’s Naval Dockyard in Karachi. Pakistani and Saudi defense officials declined to comment about any submarine discussions, but acknowledged that talks are under way on several programs.

Islamabad is trying to make oil-rich Saudi Arabia dependent on all manner of Pakistani arms and equipment, said Talat Masood, an Islamabad-based defense analyst and a retired Pakistani Army lieutenant general.Pakistan could put the revenues toward developing new weapons and gear, and could cooperate with Saudi industry on joint projects to build aircraft and tanks, said Masood.

“Pakistan is the No. 1 Muslim strategic ally to Saudi Arabia,” said Anwar Eshki, chief executive of the Middle East Center for Strategic and Legal Studies, based in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. “Saudi Arabia has always provided financial and political backing to Pakistan and is now seeking to improve military cooperation and exchange of defense technology.” Pakistan also depends on Saudi Arabia for energy, said Shireen Mazari, director general of the Pakistan Institute of Strategic Studies, Islamabad.

An Oct. 12 ceremony in Pakistan to mark the delivery of the first Super Mushhaks was attended by a Saudi military delegation led by Prince Khaled bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz, the assistant defense and aviation minister for military affairs. During the delegation’s three-day visit, the prince met with President Pervez Musharraf and toured defense industrial facilities. The visit coincided with the Oct. 12 test-firing of Pakistan’s Hatf V, or Ghauri, nuclear-capable intermediate ballistic missile. Pakistani-Saudi defense ties are improving as Islamabad’s archenemy, India, strengthens its relationship with Israel.

Some Israeli and U.S. newspapers reported earlier this year that Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have agreed to cooperate on nuclear weapons. Saudi and Pakistani diplomats in the United States denied the reports, and U.S. officials said they had seen no evidence to support the “bald assertions.” Middle East analysts dismissed the allegations. “Reports of Pakistani-Saudi nuclear collaboration are false and baseless simply because Saudi Arabia does not even have the technological infrastructure to support a nuclear cooperation program,” Masood said.

Added Eshki, a retired Saudi Army major general: “Riyadh cannot be seeking nuclear weapons at a time it is urging their removal from the region.” •


TOPICS: Egypt; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; egypt; india; islam; missiles; pakistan; proliferation; saudiarabia
Well 2 of the Great Slammic states are making out as usual.Pakistani troops have been stationed in Saudi Arabia since the 1970s & a casual glance at the personnel sheets of the RSN & RSAF will show a huge number of Pakistanis on the technical side.This combined with their zeal to spread the good word through joint Jihad since the 80s makes it an explosive combination!!!!!!!!
1 posted on 10/28/2004 11:42:41 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: F15Eagle

Well the Paki bomb wouldn't have existed if it weren't for Libyan & Saudi funding in the 1970s( along with Chinese technical assistance) as only the Islamic "civilisation" was the one left without a bomb-so it's payback time.


3 posted on 10/28/2004 11:51:30 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: rmlew; Cronos; CarrotAndStick; spetznaz

an equally bizarre news item from the same source-atleast some nations in the Persian Gulf know that there is money to be made with the Yindoos & not the bankrupt Pakis!!

India To Buy Mirage 2000-5 Aircraft From Qatar
By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHI, NEW DELHI


The Indian government has given the Air Force the go-ahead to buy 12 used Mirage 2000-5 multirole aircraft from Qatar.

The service has been lobbying the government for years to upgrade its aging aircraft fleet. This decision will further that cause as well as keep these like-new Dassault-built aircraft out of the hands of neighbor and nuclear rival Pakistan, which also was negotiating with Qatar, an Indian Ministry of Defence official said. Air Force sources said the aircraft — nine single-seat Mirage-2005 EDAs and three two-seat DDAs — cost about $35 million each. An additional $200 million will be needed to install new-generation avionics and weapons and to establish an infrastructure for operations, the sources said.



The Indian Air Force plans to increase its fleet of aircraft capable of delivering nuclear weapons. The Mirage 2000-5 can carry a nuclear warhead deep inside China with the help of the Il-78 refueler the Indian Air Force has purchased from Uzbekistan. Service officials said this will serve as an offensive system as well as a deterrent. The Mirage acquisition will be the first major deal inked by the new United Progressive Alliance government. It likely will be finalized by year’s end, with deliveries beginning in March, the ministry official said.

Qatar bought the aircraft from Dassault Aviation, Saint Cloud, France, in 1997, but is phasing out the aircraft in its shift to U.S. equipment, he said. India also operates 35 Mirage 2000H fighters, which are maintained by Bangalore-based Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd.

Pakistan operates Dassault’s Mirage-III and F-16 Falcon aircraft, acquired from the United States in the 1980s.
The outgoing National Democratic Alliance government initiated talks with Qatar for the Mirage purchase, and the Air Force sent delegations to Qatar last January and July to inspect the aircraft. •

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4 posted on 10/28/2004 11:59:15 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"Pakistan has delivered the first of 20 training jets to Saudi Arabia, the first fruit of a 2003 defense cooperation pact between the Islamic nations."

What will this eventually include? Oil money and the wahabi's combined with Pak's nuclear weapons does not bod well for the world.

Tough times ahead.
5 posted on 10/29/2004 12:15:11 AM PDT by JSteff
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To: JSteff

The Wahabis(or more accurately,their Pakistani clones) have been running Pakistan since the 1980s with active encouragement of the military & intell agencies.There is actually nothing new in this,but the fact that military cooperation has become more visible.


6 posted on 10/29/2004 12:18:48 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I sort of knew that but when they make it more visible they are feeling comfortable with doing so. Boldness makes them dangerous.


7 posted on 10/29/2004 1:22:27 PM PDT by JSteff
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