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Senator aiming for key post wants sit-down with GOP
Chicago Sun Times ^ | November 11 | Jesse J. Holland

Posted on 11/11/2004 12:29:04 PM PST by MissouriConservative

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) wants to make his case to be chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee directly to the panel's GOP members next week.

Conservative groups want senators to pass over Specter for the chairmanship because of his comment that anti-abortion judges would be unlikely to be confirmed by the Senate.

Specter, who is an abortion rights moderate, has been calling and meeting with senators individually to assure them he wouldn't personally block Bush nominees from being voted on by the full Senate.

The senator now wants to go in front of the GOP's Judiciary Committee members and hash things out next week in a private meeting, said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a committee member.

The GOP committee members get the first vote on whether Specter will replace current chairman Orrin Hatch, who is stepping down. Whatever decision they make can be appealed to the full GOP caucus.

''I expect we'll sit down with him and hear what his plans are to support the president and his nominees,'' Cornyn said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; napalminthemorning; rino; scottishlaw; specter
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To: gedeon3

Nope, it's a quote from a Perry Mason novel. I don't have any gay bones in me.


41 posted on 11/11/2004 1:29:25 PM PST by hyperpoly8 (Illegitimati Non Carborundum)
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To: hyperpoly8
'I probably have too scientific a view '

That's because we are more wise than you could ever be. In other words, I look down on your 'scientific' ideas. Your degrees did not help you much.

42 posted on 11/11/2004 1:30:13 PM PST by gedeon3
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To: hyperpoly8

Can't agree with what?


43 posted on 11/11/2004 1:32:36 PM PST by Juan Medén
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To: CWOJackson
It appears that the GOP is loosing the votes of those who have never supported them and never will

Sorry, you're wrong. Lots of rank-and-file Republican supporters are angry over Specter. You obviously have no clue of Specter's nefarious and traitorous past. Unlike the historic 1994 election, conservatives aren't just going to sit back and hi-five each other and let the Republicans we elected return to RINO business as usual. We're involved and there's not a thing you or the establishment GOP hacks can do about it.

44 posted on 11/11/2004 1:33:01 PM PST by ServesURight (Tim Michels for U.S. Senate Wisconsin)
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To: Tamsey
Specter has already demonstrated that he cannot be trusted. Just ask Robert Bork.

This is a man who says that Roe v. Wade, the paragon of judicial activism, is "involate." He has promised the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that he will not allow any "extremists" (read: judges who believe the Constitution actually means what it says) to be appointed. Which promise is he going to keep--the one he made to them or the one he's making to us?

45 posted on 11/11/2004 1:33:38 PM PST by Rebellans (Stop Specter from borking more constitutionalist judges!)
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To: hyperpoly8
Some folks want women, even if raped, to have to carry what amounts to a parasitic growth in their body. I don't, that's all.

You do realize that that statistic is miniscule but exaggerated by the abortion lobby, right?

46 posted on 11/11/2004 1:36:09 PM PST by ServesURight (Tim Michels for U.S. Senate Wisconsin)
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To: ServesURight
"We're involved and there's not a thing you or the establishment GOP hacks can do about it."

Actually ignoring the threats from the unappeasable has been quite effective.

47 posted on 11/11/2004 1:36:15 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: hyperpoly8
I don't view pro-abortion (which I'm not) and pro-choice (which I am) as synonyms.

I never said you did. I said that Specter believes taxpayers should be forced to pay for abortions, whether they like it or not. Doesn't that qualify him as pro-abortion?

48 posted on 11/11/2004 1:37:56 PM PST by Rebellans (Stop Specter from borking more constitutionalist judges!)
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To: hyperpoly8

"Some folks want women, even if raped, to have to carry what amounts to a parasitic growth in their body. I don't, that's all."


So, in your view, two wrongs make a right? What did that unborn child do to deserve a death sentence? Who gives who the right to play God and decide who is to die and who is to live?


49 posted on 11/11/2004 1:38:09 PM PST by MissouriConservative (We will always remember, always be proud, always be prepared, so we may always be free)
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To: CWOJackson

Actually ignoring the threats from the unappeasable has been quite effective.



LOL.... and most likely will continue to be but when it's not you then deal with it so until then carry on.


50 posted on 11/11/2004 1:39:13 PM PST by deport (I've done a lot things.... seen a lot of things..... Most of which I don't remember.)
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To: CWOJackson

There are, however, a large number of conservative Republicans hacked off at Specter, and who are demanding that he be held to account. I'm one of them.

Bottom line: he's shown through his intemperate remarks that he has no business sitting as chair of the Judiciary Committee.

Methinks that he's going down on this one.


51 posted on 11/11/2004 1:39:16 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: hyperpoly8

This forum is staunchly pro-life. If you believe in abortion then you might as well post somewhere else, because nobody is going to waste their time debating you about it.


52 posted on 11/11/2004 1:40:00 PM PST by No-Compromise Conservative
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To: hyperpoly8
It is only the anti-choice folks who like to brand people pro-abortion, but I'm willing to bet they can't produce evidence to prove it.

I would never force someone to carry a gun, and I don't carry a gun, but I'm pro-gun because I think they should be legal. That's the way the term is used.

Could I be among those who will tell a woman she must carry any pregnancy to term, against her will?

In the same way, I could never tell a woman she has my permission to kill her child while there is no threat to her life. There is no circumstance I can imagine, short of self defense, that justifies that kind of murder.

You can rationalize that however you want to - you have spoken in favor of allowing a woman to murder her child.

Or, more accurately, to ask a doctor to murder it for her.

Shalom.

53 posted on 11/11/2004 1:41:13 PM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: CWOJackson
Actually ignoring the threats from the unappeasable has been quite effective.

Yeah, all those emails, faxes, phone calls, and letters to Senator Frist's office didn't do much. Silly me, I think I'll assume the bend-over position now.

54 posted on 11/11/2004 1:41:40 PM PST by ServesURight (Tim Michels for U.S. Senate Wisconsin)
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To: hyperpoly8
Yes, it is, and I value a woman's right to choose what she does with her body over the rights of a fetus.

Interesting perspective, given the fact that the fetus is an individual with rights as well.

Sorry, but I wasn't ordered to go to church as a child and brainwashed on this issue. We went to all sorts of churches when I was young, and were allowed to choose which, if any, we wanted to go to. I chose to go fishing on Sunday, becoming an Icthypaleon.

You no doubt realize that morality exists regardless of whether one is a religious person. One need not attend church every Sunday to recognize that the right to life is a prerequisite for maintaining any society.

55 posted on 11/11/2004 1:43:01 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: hyperpoly8
ome folks want women, even if raped, to have to carry what amounts to a parasitic growth in their body.

I hope you're trolling for a fight. If you actually believe what you just wrote you are one SICK individual.

Shalom.

56 posted on 11/11/2004 1:43:21 PM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Poohbah
Don't get me wrong, I am no fan of Spectres', but I will be very surprised if the Senate will buck their own procedures over this. I believe they will let Spectre twist on the rope for a while but won't deny him the chairmanship.

That aside, those who continue their scorched earth threats should never be taken seriously.

57 posted on 11/11/2004 1:43:43 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: ServesURight
"Yeah, all those emails, faxes, phone calls, and letters to Senator Frist's office didn't do much."

So far all they've done is make a lot of noise.

58 posted on 11/11/2004 1:45:04 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: hyperpoly8
carry what amounts to a parasitic growth in their body

It's her child. It's her parent's grandchild. It's a human being just as you are.

59 posted on 11/11/2004 1:45:45 PM PST by Freakazoid
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To: hyperpoly8
Some folks want women, even if raped, to have to carry what amounts to a parasitic growth in their body. I don't, that's all.

Tell you what: for argument's sake I'll cede the fact that abortion should be allowed in the event a woman becomes pregnant as a consequence of rape. Now let's talk about the other 99+% of abortions. Are they also "parasitic growths"?

60 posted on 11/11/2004 1:46:08 PM PST by NittanyLion
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