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Underwear Police? Virginians May Be Fined For Low-Cut Pants
Associated Press ^ | February 8, 2005

Posted on 02/08/2005 3:47:46 PM PST by RWR8189

RICHMOND, Va. -- A Norfolk, Va., legislator says the droopy-drawers bill may be his legacy.

The Virginia House of Delegates has tentatively approved a bill to crack down on people who wear low-riding pants.

Freshman Norfolk Delegate Algie Howell Jr. introduced the bill at the urging of constituents who are offended by the exposed underwear.

Howell said, "That's why they're called undergarments. They're supposed to be worn under something else."

Delegates approved a measure that would allow police to assess a $50 fine on anyone who exposes their below-waist underpants in a "lewd or indecent manner."

Howell said that since he introduced it last month, he's been deluged with calls and e-mails about the issue, mostly positive.

Howell told The Virginian-Pilot that he kept hearing from customers in his barber shop that something needed to be done about young people who wear their pants around their knees, exposing their underwear.

When a House subcommittee took up the matter, the response was sympathetic yet skeptical because of legal issues.

It's going to the House floor for a vote.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: filth; perversion; vageneralassembly; virginia
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To: tkas

"Huzzahs," for you!


61 posted on 02/08/2005 4:35:42 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: PilloryHillary

"I can tell you this, if I ( a 39 yr old white man )walked around a mall with my pants hanging down around my thighs with my underwear hanging out and holding onto my private parts ( keeping my stupid pants up ), I have no doubt the police would be asking me a few questions."

My point was that it's commonplace and if you (a 39 yr old white man), wore pants hanging around your thighs and your underwear hanging out...the police wouldn't be asking you questions.


62 posted on 02/08/2005 4:36:02 PM PST by PilloryHillary (Yes, I was JohnFKerrySucks, but it's time to move on. Pillory Hillary!)
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To: Peace will be here soon

Ooops...I meant to post this to you (not me):
"I can tell you this, if I ( a 39 yr old white man )walked around a mall with my pants hanging down around my thighs with my underwear hanging out and holding onto my private parts ( keeping my stupid pants up ), I have no doubt the police would be asking me a few questions."

My point was that it's commonplace and if you (a 39 yr old white man), wore pants hanging around your thighs and your underwear hanging out...the police wouldn't be asking you questions.


63 posted on 02/08/2005 4:37:06 PM PST by PilloryHillary (Yes, I was JohnFKerrySucks, but it's time to move on. Pillory Hillary!)
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To: ShadowDancer
So smack the hell out of their parents. Keep the government out of it.

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!

64 posted on 02/08/2005 4:37:11 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: RWR8189

That is a racist assault on black "yute" culture!


65 posted on 02/08/2005 4:37:21 PM PST by JimRed (Investigate, overturn and prosecute vote fraud in the State of Washington !)
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To: speed_addiction
Yeah, sounds like a whole different world alright. Like a lot of people, I've made decisions in my life that could have landed me in prison on more than one occasion. Guess I got lucky.

Thanks for posting.

66 posted on 02/08/2005 4:42:37 PM PST by freebilly
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To: speed_addiction
punks would be ordered by their daddy to wear their pants this way to allow easy access to the goods

You never can tell what you will learn on FR.

Is this accurate?

67 posted on 02/08/2005 4:49:04 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: RWR8189

Call the delegates. I called Terry Kilgore today and said that if they vote for this law, I'll will wear underwear that says "Democrats suck butt" and dare them to take away my right to symbolic political speech. That's not being lewd or indecent because no more flesh is showed than at a public beach or a public school.

Terry's number is 804-698-1001

If we take this away, how will we quickly discern which kid is a punk and which is hireable???


68 posted on 02/08/2005 4:50:00 PM PST by Capablanca911
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To: RWR8189

Perhaps they should reconsider. Not too long ago a local guy led police on a car chase. They were closing in on him so he got out of his car in a parking lot and tried to run from them but his pants were so sagged that they dropped to his feet and he was arrested and cuffed.


69 posted on 02/08/2005 4:50:08 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: RWR8189
I used to think that no elected officials could be as goofy as the members of the California Legislature. I stand corrected.
70 posted on 02/08/2005 4:54:19 PM PST by Redcloak (More cleverly arranged 1's and 0's)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
LauraleeBraswell..LauraleeBraswell!! On a thread about underwear?!?! HAH!

Stoopid 7th grade jokes aside, the low slung pants are just this generation's attempt to tweak the rest of us off. Long hair, pink punk hair, whatever... is just a way to tweak the current establishment. I remember saying don't trust anyone over 30 when I was 18. I grew up and these people will too... maybe.

My thinking has evolved to understand that anyone who is or has been a driving force in the popular culture have achieved their popularity only for the simple fact that they reflect the wants or desires of the culture at that time.

An original "pop icon's" particular style or message is accepted by the culture not by the icon's design but simply because that is what is salable at that time. If then, when the public senses that a 'pretender' is being thrust upon them the 'pretender' will ultimately be rejected. We love the original, and tend to dislike the copycats.

These baggy-pant 'yoots' now having their day and the style will pass as did Flappers, Zoot Suits, Crooners, Surfers, Hippies, Disco affectionatos (death to them), Punks, Grunge, and whatever I'm leaving out.

It's necessary part of one generation differentiating themselves from their elders.

71 posted on 02/08/2005 5:01:01 PM PST by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: RWR8189

How will the plumbers union deal with this ?


72 posted on 02/08/2005 5:09:11 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

What about RAPPERS, what about them. Mom and Dad and the young people themselves need to be bigger people than all this other trash. People that listen to Hollywood and Rappers are small people and need to grow up. Hollywood at one time may have set some examples. The communist examples they set now are not good. This is the way I feel and I'll stick to it.


73 posted on 02/08/2005 5:15:01 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: JOE43270


It's the Rappers that set the example- The baggy pants is a part of the "Ghetto rap" subculture.

You want to know why kids dress this way then LOOK AT THEIR ROLE MODELS.


74 posted on 02/08/2005 5:18:27 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: festus

Look for the union label.


75 posted on 02/08/2005 5:19:18 PM PST by ORECON (Condi Rice/Donald Rumsfield - 2008)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

LOOK AT THEIR ROLE MODELS. You aren't getting it. Mom and Dad need to explain to the chilren about these role models. I did it with my kids and I'm now doing it with my grandchildren. Guess what, At least mine listen. Maybe we need to get more role models to compete with these Rappers and Hollywood.




76 posted on 02/08/2005 5:24:18 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: RWR8189

77 posted on 02/08/2005 5:26:03 PM PST by BJungNan (Please stand by while I think up a new one...)
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To: JOE43270


I agree with that too, It is the parenting or lack there of.

Hillary Clinton likes to say it takes a village. But we know it takes a family.


78 posted on 02/08/2005 5:40:34 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

God Bless you, LauraleeBraswell and all of your Family. Take good care of your young ones. They will make us all proud, and I believe they will dress properly too.


79 posted on 02/08/2005 5:52:12 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: JimRed

Please, what does "yute" mean? Is the term commonly used, and if so, by whom?

Thanks!


80 posted on 02/08/2005 6:08:25 PM PST by solzhenitsyn ("Live Not By Lies")
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