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Chariot find is a victory for Scots
The Guardian ^
| March 10, 2005
| Martin Wainwright
Posted on 03/10/2005 8:55:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Scots Wha Hae
To: Canticle_of_Deborah; blam
To: nickcarraway
"Excellent teeth."
Guess this aspect just got away from them at some point.
To: nickcarraway
'The only comparable feast was held near Northampton in the Bronze Age (2,500-750BC) where the discovery of mounds of pips pointed to a pudding course absent at Ferrybridge.'
"pips". are pips, "pits"?
a pudding with some sort of fruit with seeds? or cherry pits?
I don't want to think about a mound of 'pips", tho...
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posted on
03/10/2005 9:01:28 PM PST
by
bitt
("Conservatism is the dominant political creed in America,")
To: Eric in the Ozarks
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posted on
03/10/2005 9:03:08 PM PST
by
satchmodog9
(Murder and weather are our only news)
To: devolve
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posted on
03/10/2005 9:03:52 PM PST
by
potlatch
(Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
To: Former Dodger; swordfish71
A Highland Ping!
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posted on
03/10/2005 9:04:51 PM PST
by
Former Dodger
("The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think." --Aristotle)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
"Excellent teeth." No, just proves he WASN'T English.
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03/10/2005 9:05:55 PM PST
by
Former Dodger
("The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think." --Aristotle)
To: nickcarraway
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03/10/2005 9:09:54 PM PST
by
Fiddlstix
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To: nickcarraway
"The evidence suggests that the site of the burial may have been venerated for all those years after his death - and then became a place for the tribes to rally and perhaps remember a great national leader of the past." Certainly not one of Specter's ancestors.
Interesting article. Thanks for posting.
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posted on
03/10/2005 9:12:02 PM PST
by
Mad_Tom_Rackham
(This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
To: Former Dodger
To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
To: nickcarraway
To: nickcarraway
If this guy was remembered 500 years after his death, you'd think the Roman historians would have made a note of him, or that his legend would have survived even until now.
I wonder if this was King Arthur?
-ccm
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posted on
03/10/2005 9:55:24 PM PST
by
ccmay
(Question Diversity)
To: ccmay
That is what I was thinking.
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posted on
03/10/2005 11:17:42 PM PST
by
marsh2
To: ccmay; marsh2; SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.
"I wonder if this was King Arthur? "
Most experts accept a death date of around 540AD for King Arthur. (Many say the legends of King Arthur are a composite of many leaders of that period)
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03/11/2005 6:29:18 AM PST
by
blam
To: ccmay; marsh2
540AD was also the beginning of the Dark Ages, many people died and very little was written for 100-200 years.
The Dark Ages: Were They Darker Than We Imagined?
"It was a time when European civilisation stagnated - even that term is a generous description of the living standards and social setting of the next few centuries."
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03/11/2005 6:40:58 AM PST
by
blam
To: nickcarraway
The centuries-long tussle for prestige between England and Scotland may be about to end in victory for the clans, with new archaeological evidence suggesting that the first national leader of the British Isles was a Scot. the 2,400-year-old grave is thought to have been a rallying-point
How does this lessen English prestige? The English didn't arive for another 1000 years.
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03/11/2005 7:31:11 AM PST
by
Defiant
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
Whoever this king is, the name is probably lost, and was long ago. However, here's something that is probably related:
Dalriada
Lyberty.com
There are two Dalriadas: that of northwest Ireland, and that of western Scotland... Dalridia is the Gaelic kingdom that, at least from the 5th century AD, extended on both sides of the North Channel and composed the northern part of the present County Antrim, Northern Ireland, and part of the Inner Hebrides and Argyll, in Scotland. In earlier times, Argyll had received extensive immigration from the Irish of Northern Ireland (known as "Scoti"), and had become an Irish (i.e., "Scottish") area. In the latter half of the 5th century, the ruling family of Irish Dalriada crossed into Scottish Dalriada and made Dunadd and Dunolly its chief strongholds. Irish Dalriada gradually declined; and after the Viking invasions early in the 9th century, it lost all political identity.
Thanks Blam. Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest -- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)
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posted on
03/11/2005 10:31:34 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, February 20, 2005.)
To: ccmay
Very little major folklore survives from pre-Roman times. The Mabinogeon survives in a single copy, Geoffrey of Monmouth reproduces some surviving stories, an apparent contemporary of "King Arthur" (I forget the name) mentions the twelve battles but doesn't mention the victor's name (an apparent diss'in'), and some placenames and perhaps character names survive in French-derived tales. There are some other fragments.
There are those who believe that Arthur's memory was revived after the Anglo-Saxon-Jute invasion/migration into Britain, but that the events more or less preserved refer to pre-Roman times. The tale of Robin Hood may have been based on much older tales, adapted from who knows what. Perhaps this guy in the chariot was the heavy-handed king now portrayed as King John in the Robin Hood tales.
In any case, this chariot-driving chieftain will soon be portrayed by Mel Gibson, and the entire script of the movie will be in an extinct language...
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03/11/2005 10:44:30 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, February 20, 2005.)
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