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Legislation Seeking to Criminalize Ultrasounds without Doctor's Order Moves in Springfield
The Illinois Leader ^ | 4/6/05 | The Leader-Springfield Bureau

Posted on 04/17/2005 9:31:06 PM PDT by eeevil conservative

Legislation Seeking to Criminalize Ultrasounds without Doctor's Order Moves in Springfield

Wednesday, April 06, 2005

By The Leader-Springfield Bureau

SPRINGFIELD -- Pro-abortion forces won a victory in the Illinois House Wednesday as State Rep. Rosemary Mulligan (R-Park Ridge) successfully passed HB 2492 which would make it a criminal offense for an ultrasound to be administered without a doctor's order

Mulligan said that Planned Parenthood and the Illinois State Medical Society encouraged her to sponsor the legislation because there was a concern about long exposure of fetuses to ultrasound waves.

"There's a new little industry that does ultrasound videos on babies before they're born for entertainment purposes," the Cook County legislator told her colleagues. "There is concern about the neurological development with long exposure."

When asked by State Rep. Randy Hultgren (R-Wheaton) whether or not it would effect crisis pregnancy centers who have recently begun doing ultrasounds on women considering abortion, Mulligan said she wasn't familiar with the practice in those agencies, and deferred a clear response.

"I am assuming those agencies have doctor's orders to perform the ultrasounds, so I don't know whether this would change their policies or not," she responded.

Mulligan, who is a strong abortion advocate, said that an ultrasound should not be done for political reasons to make anyone change their minds about any particular purpose.

Hultgren called the proposal "disconcerting" that the bill was being promoted as a minor bill. "This is very serious," Hultgren said. "I encourage everyone to vote no. A person shouldn't be charged as a criminal for doing a two minute ultrasound on an expectant woman."

State Rep. Coreen Gordon (D-Kankakee) asked for specific studies indicating the harm an unborn baby would face for prolonged exposure to ultrasound.

Mulligan said that the Federal Drug Administration had warned that muscle and nerve development could be affected by long exposure.

"We should be concerned about the long term health of the fetus," Mulligan, who has voted against a ban on partial birth abortion, said.

The bill passed with bi-partisan support with 76 yes votes and 32 no votes.

Six voted present.

The legislation would make it a Class A misdemeanor for an ultrasound to be performed without a doctor's orders.

It now moves to the Illinois Senate, where it will go through committee before a floor vote.


TOPICS: US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: abortion; illlinois; plannedparenthood; prolife
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To: politicalwit
Only took 3 hours to blame Bush!

Even highly trained licensed sonographers are unable to assist the average person distinguish an ear from a rear. Are there reports of sonographer imposter's sneaking in examining rooms to expose mom & baby to Ult's while printing off rolls of what looks like T.V. static?

pp performed abortions where "fetus and other products of conception are removed from the uterus with medical instruments, suction, and curette" or Ultrasound... which is the greater threat to a fetus?

pp's "concern" distasteful.
141 posted on 04/18/2005 2:08:20 AM PDT by stage left
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To: eeevil conservative

"...Mulligan said she wasn't familiar with the practice in those agencies, and deferred a clear response."

She's a liar.


142 posted on 04/18/2005 2:11:27 AM PDT by jocon307 (Irish grandmother rolls in grave, yet again!)
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To: freepatriot32

The Democrats are for big government. The Republicans are for small government...except when they're in power.


143 posted on 04/18/2005 6:58:33 AM PDT by BJClinton (Giuliani/DeLay 2008)
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To: little jeremiah; eeevil conservative

I read the previous thread about this article, a couple of days ago. When I saw the title of the article, I thought it had something to do with sex selection. Silly me, how could I have thought for one minute that government would worry about sex selection abortions?

You can bet Planned Barrenhood isn't just supporting this, they probably authored it behind closed doors. If someone wants to, they can check out the fine folks who are voting in favor of this bill. Chances are that they're PP donors and supporters.


144 posted on 04/18/2005 8:04:38 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Great to see you here!!!

I am about to post an action alert on how to stop this!


145 posted on 04/18/2005 8:05:56 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: little jeremiah; freepatriot32

HELP!

Please use your PING LISTS!

I am about to post the ACTION ALERT on this thread!

THANK YOU!!!


146 posted on 04/18/2005 8:10:38 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: All
ACTION ALERT!! House Bill 2492 is headed to the Illinois State Senate Health and Human Services Committee!(the bill number remains the same as in the house). If we can get them to vote NO on this bill, it will DIE! Let's get moving before this hits the Senate floor and there is 10 times MORE work to do! Make sure they GET THE MESSAGE; tell them to vote NO on HB 2492. Health and Human Services Committee TIME IS TICKING! They are meeting on this on WEDNESDAY at 9:00am! PLEASE ACT NOW!!!!
147 posted on 04/18/2005 8:14:06 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: eeevil conservative
Just what we need from a RINO - a bill designed to conceal a living baby from the mother. No wonder the pro abortion side wants to make ultrasound pictures a criminal offense. You can't care about what you can't see.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
148 posted on 04/18/2005 8:15:31 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: eeevil conservative

Good to be here :) LJ pinged me to this thread. You know, it's strange how a certain poster keeps going on and on about the dangers of ultrasound. I had more than I can remember with my last pregnancy, due to high risk. She came out just fine. In fact, my first child had the lowest birthrate out of the four, and there was no ultrasound 27 years ago. The two others received at least one. The pictures are great, and you end up showing them to everyone :)

If ultrasounds were dangerous, we'd have seen astronomical class action lawsuits for malpractice.


149 posted on 04/18/2005 8:29:43 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: goldstategop; vpintheak; Crazieman; stylin19a; Army Air Corps; edskid; LibFreeOrDie; CindyDawg; ...
ACTION ALERT!!! House Bill 2492 is headed to the Illinois State Senate Health and Human Services Committee!(the bill number remains the same as in the house). If we can get them to vote NO on this bill, it will DIE! Let's get moving before this hits the Senate floor and there is 10 times MORE work to do! Make sure they GET THE MESSAGE; tell them to vote NO on HB 2492. Health and Human Services Committee TIME IS TICKING! They are meeting on this on WEDNESDAY at 9:00am! PLEASE ACT NOW!!!!
151 posted on 04/18/2005 8:40:38 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

AMEN to that!

Everyone would be SCARED to do an ultrasound!


152 posted on 04/18/2005 8:42:20 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: Fam4Bush
Illinois is a sinking ship.

And it's the Republicans who oppose baby-killing who are called "divisive."

153 posted on 04/18/2005 8:42:37 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: politicalwit
...and before you start your rants take time to do a little research on the subject. You might want to read this FDA advisory

I read the FDA advisory you linked to. It says there is no evidence of harm caused by ultrasounds. Even animal studies have turned up no evidence, as far as the FDA can report.

Wonder what your point is.

154 posted on 04/18/2005 8:43:21 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Know your rights

WOW!

Wonder what was on post 150-- that came down FAST!

I sure hope this works! If we don't get this stopped in Committee- it is going to be HARD to stop it at all!


155 posted on 04/18/2005 8:44:43 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: hinckley buzzard

EXACTLY!


I think it's whole point was just to divert our attention.

Not gonna work on me.

I get attacked all the time, doesn't bother me anymore....

No one is going to dissuade me from FIGHTING FOR LIFE!


156 posted on 04/18/2005 8:47:48 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: Lancey Howard
the Illinois State Medical Society encouraged her to sponsor the legislation because there was a concern about losing abortion dollars
157 posted on 04/18/2005 8:51:26 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: eeevil conservative
Pro-abortion forces won a victory in the Illinois House Wednesday as State Rep. Rosemary Mulligan (R-Park Ridge) successfully passed HB 2492 which would make it a criminal offense for an ultrasound to be administered without a doctor's order

Some people can't get to hell fast enough.

I shouldn't be amazed, but I am.

This hurdle was thrown up in Massachusetts a long time ago, so some crisis pregnancy centers have hired MDs, who view ultrasounds remotely. It adds a huge cost to the operation though.

158 posted on 04/18/2005 8:52:45 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: politicalwit

Is an ultrasound that saves a baby's life "unnecessary" ?


159 posted on 04/18/2005 9:07:25 AM PDT by DugMac ((Regan Rules))
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To: politicalwit

Is an ultrasound that saves a baby's life "unnecessary" ?


160 posted on 04/18/2005 9:07:28 AM PDT by DugMac ((Regan Rules))
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