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Democracy shuts its eyes as Muslim women are enslaved - (where are human rights liberals on this?)
TOWNHALL.COM ^ | MAY 23, 2005 | ARMSTRONG WILLIAMS

Posted on 05/23/2005 11:37:06 AM PDT by CHARLITE

Throughout Europe, people are standing idly by as Muslim women are being murdered for having the audacity to date, or to not wear their head scarves outside, or to yearn for a life outside of the home. The problem is most pronounced in Germany. Last month six German women were murdered by their Muslim families for flirting with Western culture. Most recently, Hatin Surucu, a twenty-three-year-old Turkish woman who had been forced into marrying her cousin at age 16, was gunned down at a German bus stop. The attack had been planned. The motive-- Surucu had divorced her husband, discarded her religious head scarf, and had begun dating German men. This was too much for her family to bear. So her three brothers killed her, and orphaned her five year old son.

The brothers bragged to their friends about the “honor killing.” In their community, they are considered heroes for suppressing their personal emotions and doing the tough work of God—discharging bullets into their defenseless sister. At least, that’s the way they tell the story in certain cloistered Muslim enclaves in Germany, where “honor killings” are becoming an increasingly familiar phenomenon.

And how is mainstream German society responding to this trend? For the most part, they’re not. Following World War II, Germans have been conditioned not to criticize other cultures. Afraid of being labeled racists or Nazis, Germans sit passively by while hundreds of Germany's Muslim women are stripped of their basic human rights.

Well, wagging your finger at the practices of another culture might not be politically correct. But what about what’s morally correct? What about the thousands of Muslim women who are being enslaved by archaic religious practices? What about the women like Surucu who are being killed for wanting a personality outside of their restrictive religion? At some point the German people must realize that protecting the rights of women like Surucu is not a matter of cultural relativity. It is a matter of universally recognized human rights. The idea of enslaving an entire gender is fundamentally at odds with the basic freedoms embraced by all enlightened, democratic societies. Germany cannot allow the mere threat of charges of cultural or religious insensitivity to undermine the basic democratic values they have worked so hard to achieve in the post war era.

Very simply, the culture of another people does not have to be accepted when it is subhuman! "Honor killings" are subhuman! And human rights activists need to address the situation in no uncertain terms. The practice of killing women for wanting to have lives of their own needs to be held up to public scrutiny. At the same time, the German government needs to engage in outreach programs to Muslim youths. They need to make sure that Muslim kids are not so alienated from mainstream society that they can simply be programmed by Mosques to hate and degrade women. Most of all the government needs to provide sanctuary to oppressed women and girls, instead of allowing Muslim extremists to hide their abuses behind a disingenuous veil of cultural relativity. Democratic societies like Germany can no longer give religious fanatics a free hand to abuse and murder non believers. Such action betrays contempt for the basic human rights which animate any democracy with meaning. In a democracy, we simply cannot allow the word “honor” to be attached to such brutal and archaic religious practices.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armstrongwilliams; germany; groups; honorkillings; humanrights; islam; journalists; media; muslims; muslimwomen; press; women

1 posted on 05/23/2005 11:37:08 AM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
Don't these European nations have laws against murder? Enforce 'em!

Of course, we know the worst that would happen is they'd get their hands slapped and be right back out there on the streets. This is Europe, after all.

2 posted on 05/23/2005 11:39:07 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: CHARLITE

Why? Because the left hates the United States for being rich, influential, and powerful more than it hates the Muslims who want to murder them.


3 posted on 05/23/2005 11:40:48 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Being buried up to your neck in dirt and having rocks thrown at your head is a basic human right!

That's why Amnesty AntiAmerican isn't condemning the religion of peace.


4 posted on 05/23/2005 11:43:19 AM PDT by boofus
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To: CHARLITE

I am surprised that "honor" killing has not yet taken place here at home. I guess that I am just impatient.


5 posted on 05/23/2005 11:50:12 AM PDT by auburntiger
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To: CHARLITE

Kill and enslave other muslims, just don't you be disrespecting the koran. Got it?


6 posted on 05/23/2005 11:52:23 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: CHARLITE

This is no surprise to anyone familiar with the workings of the Religion of Peace.


7 posted on 05/23/2005 12:02:08 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa
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To: Blood of Tyrants

'Why? Because the left hates the United States for being rich, influential, and powerful more than it hates the Muslims who want to murder them'


Yes. Hating America and especially Bush is the sure way to get a 'get out of jail free' ticket from liberals. And the terrorist Muslims have the same problem as liberals; all their heaven on earth models have failed, in fact ended in disasters. So they unite on common ground, that 'America is evil'.(checkout Horowitz's book, 'Unholy Alliance')


8 posted on 05/23/2005 12:04:08 PM PDT by marylandrepub1 (They are not justices, they are Kings!)
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To: CHARLITE
At the same time, the German government needs to engage in outreach programs to Muslim youths.

One possibility (for dealing with slammite youths) which comes to mind immediately...


9 posted on 05/23/2005 12:10:16 PM PDT by tahotdog
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To: CHARLITE
At some point the German people must realize that protecting the rights of women like Surucu is not a matter of cultural relativity

Well, somebody's going to have to make that decision. As far as the Muslims are concerned, it's a settled issue.

Qur'an 4:34: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

10 posted on 05/23/2005 12:12:33 PM PDT by Gritty ("The Muslim world walks around with an enormous chip on its collective shoulder - Mona Charen)
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To: CHARLITE
And how is mainstream German society responding to this trend? For the most part, they’re not.

Total, ignorant, fabricated BS. Frankfurter Allegemeine and most other major papers have been covering and denouncing this stuff for a while, and the German people are tired of many Muslims trying to make their own little Muslim society within Germany. The politicians from all parties are condemning it and talking about laws that can be made. Just like here, when all the politicians jump on it, you know it's because the populace is pissed off (as in the Schiavo case).

Of course, what can I expect from a dishonest paid schill of the administration. Not knowing German is no excuse, since many of the German newspapers have English versions, like the above Frankfurter Allegemeine.

11 posted on 05/23/2005 12:27:29 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: CHARLITE
Staying silent in Germany is all for peace.
We tolerate what you do, and you will not harm (attack) us has been firmly established.
Peace lovers need not spend monies for a military and therefore are able to raise their support towards a more complete and elaborate welfare system.
Next chapter: How to get out of an economic slump and off these nasty and government toppling 12% unemployment rates?
German professors have been studying and discussing an economic decline ever since Schroeder took over some 10 years ago under the promise of increasing employment.
12 posted on 05/23/2005 1:17:26 PM PDT by hermgem
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To: tahotdog

That won't hurt if you stick a Koran in your pants.


13 posted on 05/23/2005 1:18:59 PM PDT by toddlintown (Your papers please.)
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To: toddlintown

LOL


14 posted on 05/23/2005 1:23:47 PM PDT by Arpege92 ("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
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To: CHARLITE

"Human rights liberals" are interrupting their attacks on Biblical Fundamentalists to remind us that we shouldn't judge "other cultures" by the standards of our own.


15 posted on 05/23/2005 1:25:27 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (There is NONE like HaShem!!!)
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To: CHARLITE
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1408417/posts
16 posted on 05/23/2005 1:27:09 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (There is NONE like HaShem!!!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Thank you very much for the link! It is a fascinating (and aggravating) article. Everyone interested in this thread should read it! Here's a quote:

"Abu-Lughod has a solution, She thinks “we need to work hard to respect and recognize difference.” And, she adds, “We might do better to think how to make the world a more just place rather than trying to ‘save’ women in other cultures.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1408417/posts

I'd say that that the world won't be "a more just place," until women in "other cultures" are saved, which means liberated from the benighted 7th century barbarism in which they are imprisoned.

Char

17 posted on 05/23/2005 4:01:13 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing, with Billery in tow. on a leash.........)
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