Interesting. I love stuff like this. Gets the imagination going.
"It changes history in a big way," Wolter said."
Not such a big way. I think it's reasonably
clear the history of this continent did not
start in 1492 when Columbus sailed the ocean
blue.
But the university history folks--the establishment--
are reluctant to acknowledge that.
For example, there are various Indian tribes that
are clearly caucasians rather than Asians or
otherwise. The Euchees may be one such tribe.
And some believe the Pimas of the southwest
and Mexico are in fact Etruscans. I don't know a lot,
but apparently there were people running around the Americas
way before that lost Italian thought he'd discovered
India. (But I don't buy the LDS point of view, either.)
"Eight Goths and 22 Norwegians on an exploration journey "
Friends of yours?.....:)
And then there are the runes found in Oklahoma..
They're recycling THAT old fraud again? Please, don't anybody be so gullible as to purchase the upcoming book, or buy the argument. It belongs with "bigfoot" and "Nessie" hoaxes.
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The Knights Templar were formed to be a military arm of the Catholic Church with the purpose to organize for the Crusades. They were in effect monastic knights who became fabulously wealthy thanks to the many benefices they received from wealthy nobility.
Philip IV, also known as Philip the Fair, had them all arrested on the night of October 13, 1307. Their trials lasted 7 years at the end of which time all their property had been confiscated and most of the knights and leaders put to death.
By 1362, the Templars were long gone so any connection to this Minnesota monolith is pretty much ruled out.
To say that the Templars were persecuted by the Catholic Church is also somewhat misleading. In 1305 a French cardinal was elected pope as Clement V and was forced to move to Avignon by hostile Romans.
As Clement was under the protection of Philip IV, he was largely forced to go along with Philip's plundering of the Templars.
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Fascinating video and story.
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The "L" and "U" are for Lena and Uley or now pronounced Oley. The stone is most obviously the codex for all Oley and Lena jokes in the world. Uff da!
Maybe I missed the size and weight of the stone? But, was a genuine stone brought over by an enterprising immigrant and planted?
for later...
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The Kensington Rune-Stone:
Authentic and Important:
A Critical Edition
Edward Sapir Monograph Series
in Language, Culture & Congnition, Vol 19
by Robert Anderson Hall, Jr.
Cornell University Professor Emeritus of Linquistics
Richard Nielsen, Rolf M. Nilsestuen
hardcover
The Kensington rune-stone is genuine:
Linguistic, practical,
methodological considerations
by Robert Anderson Hall, Jr.
Medieval Latin Abbreviation TechniquesIt should be pointed out now that not only would an amateur forger have failed to produce the form of AVM presented on the Stone, but an expert forger probably would have similarly failed. Erik Wahlgren is a leading expert on medieval Norse runic writing. Wahlgren must be expected to be acquainted as well with Medieval Latin. Yet Wahlgren, upon reviewing the superscript mark with the "V" failed to notice it as an example of medieval abbreviation convention. The reason for this failure is simple, Wahlgren is not acquainted with Latin paleography. Very few people anywhere are. Few professors of Latin at the University level will claim more than brief exposure to Latin manuscripts. It is an esoteric field that is not necessary to study to deeply study Latin, including Medieval Latin. Few scholars of Latin are given the opportunity to study from these manuscripts and become acquainted with the conventions of abbreviation... Beyond this, however, the tools necessary to become acquainted with Medieval Latin paleography were not readily available in 1898 when the Kensington Stone was found.
Mysteries of History Solved
Do you think he makes runes out of his mashed potatoes?
Templars, eh? Hmm. Well, all I can say is, if they sailed into the sunset, heading thisaway, the literate rune writer would not have been invited along; except as protein. Unlikely he'd have survived as far as Minnesota.
But, one man's meat is another man's bosun. Yo ho ho.
Kensington runestoneIn 1354 King Magnus Erikson of Sweden issued a letter of protection (or passport) to Paul Knutson for a voyage to Greenland. The Western Settlement of Greenland had been found abandoned (but for some cattle) a few years earlier and it was believed the population had rejected the Church (and its ownership of the local farms, which had been gradually acquired in payment of various fees), reverted to paganism and gone to what is now known as North America. In 1887 the historian Gustav Storm mentioned the journey, suggesting it returned in 1363 or 1364. This appears to be the first published work that documents a voyage to North America matching the date on the stone. It has since been confirmed by a 1577 letter from Gerard Mercator to John Dee, which excerpts an earlier work by Jacobus Cnoyen (now lost) describing a voyage beyond Greenland that returned with 8 men in 1364. Cnoyen also mentions that a priest accompanied the voyage and wrote an account of it in a book called the Inventio Fortunate which is cited in a number of medieval and Renaissance documents, although no copy remains... Nielsen also noted that the dialect found on the Runestone was an a dialect unlike the far more common e dialect spoken by most Swedes including Ohman. This dialect was used primarily near the Bohuslan region of southeast Sweden, next to the border of Norway and near a Danish area. According to Nielsen the language on the stone appears to combine dialectic forms from intersecting languages.
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