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Hot California market daunts first-time buyers
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8008924 ^ | 5-31-05

Posted on 05/31/2005 10:33:33 AM PDT by TXBSAFH

Hot California market daunts first-time buyers Median home price passes $500,000; many young workers shut out

Paul Sakuma / AP file A home for sale in Los Altos, Calif. The pace of existing-home sales rose 3 percent last month from the year-earlier level. By Martin Wolk Chief economics correspondent MSNBC Updated: 12:51 a.m. ET May 28, 2005Pity the poor first-time home buyer in California. With the median price of a home in the Golden State crossing $500,000 for the first time, getting into that “starter” home requires perseverance, luck and a willingness to think small.

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Maya Vestal, 25, who works for a biotech company, took the plunge this month with her boyfriend, plunking down $585,000 for a 1,200-square-foot home near San Jose in a neighborhood she describes as “not great.”

Frankly, the three-bedroom, one-bath house doesn’t sound all that great either. Built in 1940, it needs about $50,000 worth of work including new plumbing, new wiring and a new kitchen, she figures. “The only thing we’re keeping are the floors, which are beautiful, original hardwood.”

Together, Vestal and her boyfriend, a 25-year-old city worker, earn more than $100,000 a year, but the new $3,800 monthly mortgage payments will eat up nearly 70 percent of the couple’s take-home pay.

“It’s a lot of money, and it’s really scary,” she said. “We really like to travel, and we probably won’t be able to do that so much.”

But with prices going up so rapidly and long-term interest rates lingering at their lowest levels in four decades, Vestal and her boyfriend didn’t want to risk waiting.

“We felt if prices or interest rates go up, we’ll be priced out of the market,” she said. “Even if rates went up half a percent we wouldn’t be able to afford a house.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: realestate
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1 posted on 05/31/2005 10:33:35 AM PDT by TXBSAFH
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To: TXBSAFH

A $3,800/mo mortgage? That's gotta be tough to swallow.


2 posted on 05/31/2005 10:35:13 AM PDT by ctlpdad (Liberals - weeds in the lawn of society.)
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To: TXBSAFH

PONZI PING!


3 posted on 05/31/2005 10:36:57 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: ctlpdad

Not if the house appreciates 4k/month.


4 posted on 05/31/2005 10:37:13 AM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: TXBSAFH
When housing prices get this far out of line, RENTING is an economically rational alternative, especially if you have the discipline to BANK the difference between your rent payment and your probable house payment.
5 posted on 05/31/2005 10:37:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: TXBSAFH

All I can say is YIKES!!!


6 posted on 05/31/2005 10:37:39 AM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Bob J
Not if the house appreciates 4k/month.

Like that's going to go on forever.

7 posted on 05/31/2005 10:38:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: TXBSAFH
But with prices going up so rapidly and long-term interest rates lingering at their lowest levels in four decades, Vestal and her boyfriend didn’t want to risk waiting.

I hate seeing young people continually falling for this line of BS from the mortgage industry. Rent, pay half what your mortgage payment would have been, take advantage of the fact you won't be paying property taxes, enjoy your freedom while you are young, laugh at the silliness of the ad campaigns...and when the market changes and the rent/mortgage payment ratio again gets close to 1:1 (instead of the current 1:2), only then consider buying.

8 posted on 05/31/2005 10:39:09 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: TXBSAFH
“It’s a lot of money, and it’s really scary,” she said. “We really like to travel, and we probably won’t be able to do that so much.”

That's a NSS statement if I've ever seen one.

9 posted on 05/31/2005 10:39:36 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Memo to republican party - YOU'RE FIRED.)
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To: TXBSAFH
I was walking with my wife Sunday. We went into an open house for a condo in Santa Monica. It was 3 bd, 3 bath, 1900 sq ft - asking price $975,000.

It is total insanity.

10 posted on 05/31/2005 10:39:40 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: ctlpdad

Yes I can't imagine a $3800/month mortgage. Those 2 25 year olds make over $100,000 a year. That's pretty good money in any other part of the country. I've been working for close to 35 years and don't make that kind of money. Of course, I live in Indiana.


11 posted on 05/31/2005 10:39:54 AM PDT by caver (In the words of that illustrious socialite twit Paris Hilton, "That's hot".)
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To: TXBSAFH

70-percent of their take home pay? Sounds like some loan officer is either pretty stupid or pretty greedy. But then there's the old saying, to wit: "Just before God makes you greedy he makes you stupid."


12 posted on 05/31/2005 10:40:15 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Anyone can see what's wrong, but can you see what's right?" -Winston Churchill)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I hate seeing young people continually falling for this line of BS from the mortgage industry.

And what exactly is the line of BS?

Rent, pay half what your mortgage payment would have been, take advantage of the fact you won't be paying property taxes

Renters pay property taxes. Their included in the rent payment.

13 posted on 05/31/2005 10:40:41 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: TXBSAFH

My wife and I bought a house (3 Bdrm/1 Bth) in the Long Beach/Lakewood area (nice, middle class kind of place) for $185,000 in 1998. We sold it in 2001 for $259,000. Today, that house goes for $425,000 - go figure!


14 posted on 05/31/2005 10:42:16 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
A friend of mine rented one side of a small old duplex for $1500.00 a month in L.A. That was over 10 years ago!

Insane.

15 posted on 05/31/2005 10:42:31 AM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I've been advise to wait out the market. Then retirees will have to sale and move to Florida.

And/Or I've also heard stories where people have to sale to re-locate and they take a big % loss.

Hope that is true. Also, I don't have a $50,000 down payment.

(I just exited Grad school and I'm going on my second job which is really good and a Keeper.)

16 posted on 05/31/2005 10:42:42 AM PDT by Idisarthur
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To: RexBeach
Ones Debt To Income Ratio (DTI) is based on gross pay, not net.

And the loan officer isn't being "Greedy." If their application gets an Approval/Eligible from either the Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac underwriting engines, and the borrowers provided the required documentation, Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac has to purchase the loan.

17 posted on 05/31/2005 10:42:56 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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And what exactly is the line of BS?

"This is your last chance! If you don't buy NOW it could be too late, and you'll NEVER get the chance!" LOL! It's a scam as old as the hills. I know you're in the business, and don't take it personally, but a wise financial advisor would be telling most of your younger potential clients to steer clear of the game at this time.

18 posted on 05/31/2005 10:43:59 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: TXBSAFH
Maya Vestal, 25, who works for a biotech company, took the plunge this month with her boyfriend, plunking down $585,000 for a 1,200-square-foot home near San Jose in a neighborhood she describes as “not great.”

This lady and her boyfriend could have gotten a brand new 5 bedroom 5 bath home here in Northeast Wisconsin.

Anyone considering buying a home in CA needs to have their head examined.

19 posted on 05/31/2005 10:44:23 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful Or Fatal If Swallowed)
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To: TXBSAFH

My house is 4 bedrooms, 2-1/2 baths, and 3140 square feet. Monthly mortgage payment is about $1500/mo, and that includes property tax and insurance.

$3800/mo ? YIKES !!!


20 posted on 05/31/2005 10:44:54 AM PDT by PetroniDE (We Don't Live in Texas Anymore --- State Name is Now TAXES !!)
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