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Hot California market daunts first-time buyers
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8008924 ^ | 5-31-05

Posted on 05/31/2005 10:33:33 AM PDT by TXBSAFH

Hot California market daunts first-time buyers Median home price passes $500,000; many young workers shut out

Paul Sakuma / AP file A home for sale in Los Altos, Calif. The pace of existing-home sales rose 3 percent last month from the year-earlier level. By Martin Wolk Chief economics correspondent MSNBC Updated: 12:51 a.m. ET May 28, 2005Pity the poor first-time home buyer in California. With the median price of a home in the Golden State crossing $500,000 for the first time, getting into that “starter” home requires perseverance, luck and a willingness to think small.

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Maya Vestal, 25, who works for a biotech company, took the plunge this month with her boyfriend, plunking down $585,000 for a 1,200-square-foot home near San Jose in a neighborhood she describes as “not great.”

Frankly, the three-bedroom, one-bath house doesn’t sound all that great either. Built in 1940, it needs about $50,000 worth of work including new plumbing, new wiring and a new kitchen, she figures. “The only thing we’re keeping are the floors, which are beautiful, original hardwood.”

Together, Vestal and her boyfriend, a 25-year-old city worker, earn more than $100,000 a year, but the new $3,800 monthly mortgage payments will eat up nearly 70 percent of the couple’s take-home pay.

“It’s a lot of money, and it’s really scary,” she said. “We really like to travel, and we probably won’t be able to do that so much.”

But with prices going up so rapidly and long-term interest rates lingering at their lowest levels in four decades, Vestal and her boyfriend didn’t want to risk waiting.

“We felt if prices or interest rates go up, we’ll be priced out of the market,” she said. “Even if rates went up half a percent we wouldn’t be able to afford a house.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: realestate
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To: TXBSAFH

"“We felt if prices or interest rates go up, we’ll be priced out of the market,” she said. “Even if rates went up half a percent we wouldn’t be able to afford a house.”"

This is classic crowd behavior near a top of a mania, though there are certainly other factors that drive buying a house besides fear/greed.


41 posted on 05/31/2005 10:54:09 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: TXBSAFH

So much talk about this "housing bubble" and prices just keep going up. Yet not a word about the SUV bubble. When gas hits 3/gal the market will be flooded with used SUV's, car makers are already seeing demand slump, and anyone wanted to seel their two year old $50,000 SUV will be lucky to get $35,000. Why would people want to drive a truck when all they need is a nice wagon, like a Volvo for example.


42 posted on 05/31/2005 10:55:32 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Phantom Lord

massive illegal immigration = massive increase on the demand side of the equation.



43 posted on 05/31/2005 10:55:50 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Comming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
This lady and her boyfriend could have gotten a brand new 5 bedroom 5 bath home here in Northeast Wisconsin.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

44 posted on 05/31/2005 10:55:51 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Hildy

I have seen lots of very nice houses with no furniture, and the owners can barely afford to mow the lawn, nevermind pay for some nice shrubs for landscaping. It doesn't even sound like they got a real nice house.

House-poor. It must suck!


45 posted on 05/31/2005 10:55:57 AM PDT by ctlpdad (Liberals - weeds in the lawn of society.)
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To: ErnBatavia
IMHO, you were smart to sell. Trying to time markets is almost impossible. When this market crashes it won't be like in the early '90's, when people started leaving creating a slow burn. It will be a fundamentals driven devaluation. I may not happen for years, but no one knows. Bubbles are more psychological than anything.
46 posted on 05/31/2005 10:56:14 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
All it's going to take is one measly little earthquake we have them every day; the tone here seams to be very hopeful for a crash in the California market, why is that?
47 posted on 05/31/2005 10:56:28 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Blood of Tyrants; ctlpdad

Just wait until the bills start hitting and unmarried couple splits, one is left holding the bag on a $4K/month note. Scary stuff.


48 posted on 05/31/2005 10:56:40 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: SoDak
I live all alone in a 3 bedroom, 2400 sq ft house here, and plan to move into something bigger soon.

You won't have to clean, just let rooms lie fallow for a bit. :)

49 posted on 05/31/2005 10:56:54 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Jonah Johansen
Yeah, lot's of "day laborers" are picking up $800,000 townhouses on the Westside.
50 posted on 05/31/2005 10:57:27 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: rabidralph
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't worry. Most Californians are not willing to give up the climate, the beach, the mountains, etc. It's all here.

51 posted on 05/31/2005 10:58:35 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: 2banana
A HUGE red flag that the market is way overvalued... - you may need to keep in mind we have rent control in SF, you cannot increase rents at will, you are allowed a certain small amount (? i do not know but I think about 3%) or when someone moves; a lot of my former roommates had lived in the same place 10 years
52 posted on 05/31/2005 10:59:05 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: PetroniDE
$3800/mo ? YIKES !!!

No kidding, Yikes is right. That's about 6 mos of mortgage payments for us (~680/month) and our house is the same size as theirs. And we make about the same as they do, combined (but I'm soon to lose my job, so having a low mortgage is very nice right now).

LQ

53 posted on 05/31/2005 11:00:08 AM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Yea, a lot of couple fight over money. These two are very likely candidates for that.

No more romantic dinners when all you can afford is mac & cheese or {{yeck}} hot dogs.


54 posted on 05/31/2005 11:00:27 AM PDT by ctlpdad (Liberals - weeds in the lawn of society.)
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To: 1Old Pro
When gas hits 3/gal the market will be flooded with used SUV's

For the 6 months leading upto Memorial Day weekend just about every talking head in America was talking about how gas would be over $3 a gallon for the big travel holiday.

Didn't happen. And I don't see it happening any time soon barring an unforseen disaster such as the Saudis turning off the pumps.

55 posted on 05/31/2005 11:00:32 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: SF Republican
we have them every day; the tone here seams to be very hopeful for a crash in the California market, why is that?

Paranoia may destroya.

I couldn't care less about California. It's going to belong to Mexico soon, anyway.

56 posted on 05/31/2005 11:01:02 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
It's cheaper to rent a 600 sq ft apartment than buy an 1800 sq ft house. But historically, in ten years, that same 600 sq ft apartment will rent for more than the mtg payments on that same 1800 sq ft house.

Of course renters pay property taxes, and usually more per sq ft than owners of homes because they're paying for common areas such as the leasing office and tennis courts they might not use.

57 posted on 05/31/2005 11:01:09 AM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep. I pay $1150 per month renting a one-bedroom, largely because there are no places within a 20 mile radius of where I work that 1. I can afford or 2. where any sane person would consider living.


58 posted on 05/31/2005 11:01:38 AM PDT by Clemenza (Vader 2008: In your heart, you know he's right)
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To: TXBSAFH

Thats nothing, my sister in law in San Jose just bought...they paid a little less than 800k........


59 posted on 05/31/2005 11:01:59 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: oldleft
IMHO, you were smart to sell. Trying to time markets is almost impossible.

As someone on the mortgage side of real estate I am constantly dealing with rate shoppers and those who are trying to time the market for the bottom dip.

I tell every single one of them that those who catch the bottom do so by accident.

60 posted on 05/31/2005 11:02:06 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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